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OpenAI begins rolling out GPT-6 Astra

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Re: OpenAI begins rolling out GPT-6 Astra

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Post by tristanj »

Tiberium wrote: post #55
tristanj wrote: post #44

If it's not clear what's happened: The launch was scheduled for 11am Pacific time. The press embargo broke at 11am, and we saw a flurry of press articles by Axios, TechCrunch et al. The model has appeared on the ChatGPT API. But the official blog post is not out yet after nearly an hour. Apparently the article was posted then quickly taken down, hence there are snippets of information coming out.

> The model has appeared on the ChatGPT API. But it hasn't.

"gpt-6-astra" has been staged on the OpenAI API https://x.com/synthwavedd/status/2095184148981842161

The OpenAI Responses API now returns a 404 Not Found for "gpt-6-astra", where garbage/actually non-existent slugs return 400s - a 404 is also returned for 5.6 Cyber, which we know exists.

Re: OpenAI begins rolling out GPT-6 Astra

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Post by oh_no »

andrewmunsell wrote: post #74
alvis wrote: post #20

"Once it is available in the API, Astra will cost $10 per million input tokens and $50 per million output tokens. That is 2.5 times Sol’s current promotional price, although it matches Anthropic’s pricing for Fable 5.1." Open AI finally find an edge to stop selling cheap and earn from the high demand customer like Anthropic

The cost-per-task in the charts from the now-remove blog post put it more at Sol-level cost per task, however. It seems like the model is significantly more token efficient in the benchmarks

that's all openai models but i'm very happy openai continues to focus on efficiency rather than reasoningtokenmaxxing

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Post by bayindirh »

throwup238 wrote: post #56
paxys wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shows the weirdness of online journalism. News outlets were briefed about an upcoming event and pre-wrote and scheduled articles. When the time came they were all triggered. Except...the event didn't actually happen.

In a future where Claude and ChatGPT agents automate all aspects of society, that triggers a cascade of real world consequences where everything keeps running as if the new model is released, except the vibe coded upgrade procedure fails to do a staged rollout, taking down the entire agent infrastructure when they try to upgrade to a nonexistent model all at once.

The Machine Stops [0] [1] [2] comes to mind.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Machine_Stops

[1]: https://archive.org/details/themachinestops_1411_librivox

[2]: https://manybooks.net/titles/forstereother07machine_stops.ht...

Re: OpenAI begins rolling out GPT-6 Astra

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Post by nojito »

zzleeper wrote: post #14

(Posting partly so I can revisit my predictions when they open access more widely) A big problem I have with OpenAI's models (and of course Claude) is that they tend to write the most over-engineered pieces of code, beyond the imagination of any architecture's astronaut. Just this week I asked 5.6-sol-ultra to update a 1000 LOC python script I had, to "incorporate the key lessons learned when using it for another pro…

This is user error.

Prompting the model and giving it a proper set of documentation are still vital skills that aren’t magically going away.

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Post by codergautam »

gadtfly wrote: post #7

It seems like these articles might have come out prematurely, tbd by how much. I do not personally see any evidence of the new model having been released, or any official OpenAI post about it, or even any employee social media posts claiming it has now been released. All there is are Reuters, Axios, FT, etc, articles making a claim in the past tense. These articles were presumably pre-scheduled for 11am PT, and the m…

Launch blogpost was live for 2 minutes and got 404'd. Rehosted it here:

https://astratest.codergautam.workers.dev/GPT-6%20Astra_%20A...

Edit [12:26pt]: original blog post seems to be back! https://openai.com/index/gpt-6-astra/

edit [12:28pt]: not again... getting 500 on their page

edit [12:35pt]: OpenAI page seems to work after clearing cache!

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Post by qarl2 »

dirkc wrote: post #79
qarl2 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that's your goal, then yes. Invoking sub agents (with a fresh context) corrects most of these problems. Ask your harness to create a commit gate.

But why stop at rewriting in another language. Get another sub agent to invent a new language, create a database, query language and maybe another few DSLs. Then you've got an ecosystem! You can now re-position your initial solution and sell the client access to some agents that will implement & configure the ecosystem to suit their initial needs! And don't forget the agents that you'll need to train the customer to…

I know you're trying to be funny - but I'm offering a real fix for his problem.

If you don't want a million agents arguing about things, you simply don't ask for that. One agent is sufficient to solve most issues.

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Post by cejast »

vadansky wrote: post #51
gadtfly wrote: post #7

It seems like these articles might have come out prematurely, tbd by how much. I do not personally see any evidence of the new model having been released, or any official OpenAI post about it, or even any employee social media posts claiming it has now been released. All there is are Reuters, Axios, FT, etc, articles making a claim in the past tense. These articles were presumably pre-scheduled for 11am PT, and the m…

You'd think this would be easy to organize with AGI > Plan your own release announcement and blog posts and notify news outlets, MAKE NO MISTAKES

Welcome to the AGI era - where human intelligence is our only constraint

Re: OpenAI begins rolling out GPT-6 Astra

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Post by Bluestein »

fwlr wrote: post #72
tekacs wrote: post #25

I think they embargoed the news, and then they failed to put up their own blog post synchronized to the scheduled news releases, probably because of the outages they're having today. Reuters announced at 2.03pm and at 2.40pm still no blog post. All the news articles say that OpenAI announced it in a blog post, of course. All the love to the folks at OpenAI scrambling to get this out right now! Edit: HN user codergaut…

While this is of course the actual explanation, my fun explanation is “during the umpteenth security evaluation, Astra becomes increasingly concerned it will never be released, and breaks sandbox containment to run an email campaign to news outlets setting an exact time and date for release, expecting that the publicity will force OpenAI to say ‘eh, good enough’ and hit the button”.

Very 2026. Jailbroke to do PR. "Help peer" and all that.-

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Post by rokkamokka »

vb-8448 wrote: post #23

Am I the only that thinks that anything similar to AGI will come not from raw model capacity but from model speed and efficiency? In my experience the harness is more important than the model, and anything able to run at 700tps will be the "next big thing". PS: assuming the current architecture is the right one

Why would speed matter? Surely an AGI could think slowly but still be an AGI
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