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neil.fraser.name

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Re: .name Termination

#131
Dude, this is one of the craziest things I think I've read on HN

First, that a legit dealer could/did(does?) sell third-level domains at all (Verisign, no less) Second, that the top-level is staying available, allowing for second-levels to be bought/sniped like you mention.

If you do lawyer up and need help with legal fees, I think this would be a worthy cause.

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#132
This is why I am building DNTLS. These organizations no longer deserve our trust and they have inadvertently gained too much power over the last two decades of massive internet expansion. Names need to be fully owned by individuals and a shared, decentralized trust system must be in place for resolution. The more I see actions like this, the more convinced I am that a solution is long overdue.

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#133
I am also one of the 22,000 people who have a third-level .name domain and I am livid about this, not least because Verisign flat-out lied in their proposal to ICANN: (https://itp.cdn.icann.org/en/files/consensus-policies/rsep-2...) :

"2.1. What effect, if any, will the proposed service have on the life cycle of domain names? None. There will not be any effect on the life cycle of domain names.

...

2.3. Explain how the proposed service will affect the throughput, response time, consistency or coherence of responses to Internet servers or end systems. There will be no effect on the throughput, response time, consistency or coherence of responses to Internet servers or end systems."

My registrar is also suggesting that they are going to just keep the money I pre-paid for years of registration, which is a minor annoyance compared to the loss of my entire online identity but an annoyance nonetheless.

Since ICANN is a non-profit that is required to operate in the public interest I do hope there can be some pushback on this. I will be writing to the CA AG myself.

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#134
post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a .science domain and a .com domain. Even though .science was launched in 2014 (more than a decade ago), I still consider it a non-standard TLD and still deal regularly with difficulties around its use. (For instance, you wouldn't believe how many online services reject email addresses than end in .science because they use regexes that exclude TLDs with 7 letters.) Likewise, I've registered .lol and .fun domai…

> Likewise, I've registered .lol and .fun domains but never would have assumed that just because they're available now, they will be available in perpetuity. Why wouldn't you assume this? > the standard way domain registration works is by choosing a single "second level" domain name, then adding subdomains The entire ccTLD systems of the UK, China, Germany, France, Japan, and many others would beg to differ.

I don't think those are comparable, because when you register a .co.uk domain, you are selecting one name that precedes .co.uk, similar to how you register one name that precedes .com.

Whereas with .name, you are choosing what appears to be a subdomain, followed by what appears to be a domain name. But under the hood, you do not own all subdomains for that domain name; you own only the combination of first_name.last_name.name.

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#136

I've had a .name domain forever and I had no idea first.last.name was even a thing, meaning that it was possible to register this without owning last.name. That said, my domain is simply unusual.name, and everybody in my family has email addresses in the form first@unusual.name. So this is a no-op for me, and I gather www.unusual.name will also continue to work, since I own the 2nd level outright.

This is silly question, but is your family managing trust in you as lone guy - cousin, father, brother - having potentially access to all their emails? I feel that I more trust some corpo (Google, etc) that one particular person. I don't imagine setup where you can effictevely guarantee them full privacy.

> This is silly question, but is your family managing trust in you as lone guy - cousin, father, brother - having potentially access to all their emails?

I believe this is a very common setup: the "computer wizard" kid of the family manages the computers for the whole family. Not just emails, they have access to the whole computer (and have to fix when it breaks).

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#137

This is why I am building DNTLS. These organizations no longer deserve our trust and they have inadvertently gained too much power over the last two decades of massive internet expansion. Names need to be fully owned by individuals and a shared, decentralized trust system must be in place for resolution. The more I see actions like this, the more convinced I am that a solution is long overdue.

There is already ENS.

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#138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

.co.uk is run by the same people as .uk. There is no additional org that you trust when you register a .co.uk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.uk#Second-level_domains > do browsers have a wildcard suffix list Yes: https://publicsuffix.org/ and they have discussed this situation here: https://github.com/publicsuffix/list/issues/2306

Yes, Japan does the same with .co.jp but also .ne.jp, ac.jp, etc.

There are many examples; k12..us is another.

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#140
post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Likewise, I've registered .lol and .fun domains but never would have assumed that just because they're available now, they will be available in perpetuity. Why wouldn't you assume this? > the standard way domain registration works is by choosing a single "second level" domain name, then adding subdomains The entire ccTLD systems of the UK, China, Germany, France, Japan, and many others would beg to differ.

I don't think those are comparable, because when you register a .co.uk domain, you are selecting one name that precedes .co.uk, similar to how you register one name that precedes .com. Whereas with .name, you are choosing what appears to be a subdomain, followed by what appears to be a domain name. But under the hood, you do not own all subdomains for that domain name; you own only the combination of first_name.last_…

I'm not sure I understand. How is registering first.last.name not also selecting one name ("first") that precedes last.name, similar to how you register one name that precedes .com?

(And yes, I am aware that you can also register last.name by itself, but only if there are no third-level domains using it, so for practical purposes it doesn't change my question above. Plus, when the OP originally purchased his domain, you could only buy third-level domains for .name.)

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