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Mom gets 6-month suspended sentence for letting 5-year-old walk to the pond

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Post by pibaker »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #150
softwaredoug wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stranger kidnappings are basically unheard of. It's never been a safer time for kids in terms of crime like that.

They're more common among relatives than total strangers. About a year or so ago I saw on Nextdoor a neighbor posted about that some girl who always walked home from school whom he waves to when he sees her. One day she was walking slower than normal, and she ran to him scared, they didn't actually know each other, on the Ring footage you can see that a car that was following her drove off. Who knows if all these cam…

> Just because its rare doesn't mean that you as a parent want to win the misfortune lottery.

If you want total safety from misfortune why have kids at all? Pregnancy and birth is one of the most dangerous things people choose to do voluntarily. 1 in 200 newborns die in the US. You could avoid that by not having kids!

Flippant I know. But at the end of the day to live is to take risks. Extreme risk avoidance will come back to bite you on a later day in the form of declining birth rates, increasing neuroticism and support for building a police state.

Re: Mom gets 6-month suspended sentence for letting 5-year-old walk to the pond

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Post by pibaker »

xboxnolifes wrote: post #143
goda90 wrote: post #125

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They're heard of because it's so rare that media loves to broadcast them far and wide for the views. Like it's good to get people watching out for the kidnapped child as quickly as possible, but the media sensation causes paranoia in unaffected viewers.

A lot of the ones that do get broadcasted still end up being a relative too, but you wouldn't know unless you look into it after it get resolved and stops being talked about.

A lot of them are not even kidnapping in the colloquial sense. We hear "kidnapping" and think about being tied up in the trunk of a car but many of the actual kidnapping cases are more like "Bobby went to his divorced daddy's place for the weekend and hasn't been back on Monday." It's about the parents' custody and not about the kids' safety.

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Post by JohnMakin »

throw83930489 wrote: post #69
neaden wrote: post #2

This is one of those frustrating things. You're just not allowed to not be scared with kids. If you aren't scared of letting your kid walk to a pond, you get punished for it. If you're not scared of the kidnappers, you have to be scared of the police. None of it is rational, it's different how many of us were raised, yet if you try to opt out the law gets involved.

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> Being scared may trigger a dog and then you would be responsible for attack!

This is victim blaming bullshit irresponsible dog owners love to spew

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Post by math-man »

0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #40

People should watch the Netflix version of Old Enough! - it is a Japanese show where young (!) children 3-5 year old walk around the neighborhood doing chores. The one scene I recall was where a child was supposed to carry a fish to the butcher and was being followed by hungry cats.

I think I've seen that anime.

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Post by cousinbryce »

gogobio wrote: post #154
qwerpy wrote: post #68

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American here, it seems to vary by location. I walked to school as a grade school student (Midwest) and where I live now (Orange county, California) I regularly see swarms of kids biking to school. This particular situation seems ridiculous. I’d be furious if I lived there.

The average income of Orange county California is over double the national. Safe to say this kind of lifestyle is reserved for the rich and not for the people.

I was shocked that it happened to a white woman. I guess that’s why there’s an article about it

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Post by magicalhippo »

ghostly_s wrote: post #95
throw83930489 wrote: post #69

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Your attempt at sarcasm really fell on its face. It is not reasonable to be categorically afraid of dogs.

Yet my SO is. No idea why, but she's really scared of them, especially dogs she doesn't know. Even a chihuahua is terrifying.

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Post by expedition32 »

profsummergig wrote: post #89
comrade1234 wrote: post #29

Here in Switzerland children start walking to school at around 5-years. Parents aren't allowed to bring them to school. If a parent escorts their children to school they'll be told not to. If they keep doing it they'll get a letter from the school and probably a police visit. And if they continue (I never heard of it getting to this stage) they may be fined. It's funny in the morning. One child walks to another child…

It's a high trust homogenous society without lots of different groups with all kinds of grievances about the past, present and the future. And it's probably rural, where everyone knows each other. When I read the headline, I sided with the mother. But a five-year old having to cross four roads in total to and from (with vehicles going up 25 mph legally, and who knows how fast illegally) is a bit much.

True. I can let a kid ride a bicycle in Amsterdam but not London.

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Post by GeoAtreides »

profsummergig wrote: post #89
comrade1234 wrote: post #29

Here in Switzerland children start walking to school at around 5-years. Parents aren't allowed to bring them to school. If a parent escorts their children to school they'll be told not to. If they keep doing it they'll get a letter from the school and probably a police visit. And if they continue (I never heard of it getting to this stage) they may be fined. It's funny in the morning. One child walks to another child…

It's a high trust homogenous society without lots of different groups with all kinds of grievances about the past, present and the future. And it's probably rural, where everyone knows each other. When I read the headline, I sided with the mother. But a five-year old having to cross four roads in total to and from (with vehicles going up 25 mph legally, and who knows how fast illegally) is a bit much.

>homogenous society

this is a racist dogwhistle. _Homogeneous_ is code for racial or ethnic purity.

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