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Re: Muse Spark 1.3

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Not to mention, this is hyper competitive against even Chinese providers given its multi-modal support. Muse Spark 1.3 supports Text, Image, Video, File, Audio inputs. We've only started to see models from China include image and video inputs recently.

Muse Spark may be competitive in capabilities but it’s not for serious works since Meta trains on your prompts so no ZDR, in contrast Chinese provider like Z.AI promises ZDR which is more attractive to big corps.

Another poster has pointed to a statement by Mark Zuckerberg that they will release soon Muse Spark as open weights.

While I agree with you for the Muse Spark as hosted by Meta, if it will be available in open weights form for self hosting, then there are good chances that it can become quite useful.

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

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Any idea what size this is?

Mark Zuckerberg said that they will release soon Muse Spark as open weights, in which case we will see the size.

However, the statement did not include any details, so it is not clear if the open weights variant will be the same that they are hosting now, or some scaled down version.

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

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I think you're mischaracterizing Anthropic uncharitably and lumping them in with other, less savory tech billionaires, and also not thinking through the nuances here. First, Amodei has taken an unusually strong stance among tech companies for not supplying fascist regimes with fascist tooling; in fact, even when threatened with being labeled a national security risk unless he bent the knee, he didn't. Compare and con…

Yes, there is nuance. And, I have a Claude subscription partly because they showed more hesitation to provide surveillance tools for spying on US citizens than other vendors. They are not wholly free of ties to the US regime, but they've been better than others. But, I'll come back to "two things can be true". Anthropic is better than some, and in some regards they are navigating a complicated ethical landscape with…

it's possible that their rationale for making claims about safety is in fact that they, among everyone else, are doing the most to be prudently safe. While that's a powerful tool to compete with, that doesn't make them bad. Amodei and Anthropic have never said "open models are not safe because anyone can use them," in fact to the contrary, they've said "open-weights models that don’t have dangerous capabilities are a public good". It's important not to muddy the water here with assertions about their intentions when they've actually been super clear about that in a way that I, at least, personally find difficult to disagree with -- releasing dangerous-capability models into the wild would likely be a bad idea for humanity. If you disagree, state why.

I also think you're confusing multiple different things, calling them all risks, lumping them together as equally bad, and using that to attribute contradictory/shady behavior to Anthropic. Depending on what you mean by 'sabotaging Fable briefly', you could either mean experiments they have run internally to try to improve alignment, or you could mean their attempts to restrict Fable from working on danger-adjacent work. Neither one of those is a 'risk'; they are both risk-analysis or risk-mitigation. That is not them 'doing the unsafe things they say are risks of open models', that is literally them working to avoid the unsafe things they say are risks of open models. They don't, in my experience, 'lay claim' to the 'safe AI company mantle' as much as they, apparently principledly and conscientiously, attempt to be safe and talk about what they're doing -- which is not in and of itself a problem.

If you think Anthropic is doing all of this badly, what's your optimum alternative here? What would you do in Amodei's shoes?

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

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If it's a mistake, it should course-correct. I agree that some of the smarter models are actually worse. I hope they take a model that's good enough--there are many--and just try to get it chatjimmy.ai speed. I have to think that's the future, somehow, and I'm really excited about it.

"If it's a mistake, it should course-correct" Maybe, or maybe not. The thing is, that "mistake" isn't something that is generally valid. For example, the enshittification of Google Search through the last 15 years seems to be a mistake --- but perhaps not from the money-making point of view of Google Shareholders. Likewise the enshittification of reddit --- we nerdy users see it as a mistake. But for them this intend…

I do think the timeline of web search getting fixed (yes, google is ASS) took a lot longer than I hoped, but seems like it's finally here.

That being said, it's not a fair comparison to talk about 2011 google vs the AI market right now. There's so many labs I can't track them all, neck and neck in the lead. There was one true web search.

And this is a more tangible quality difference, too. It's hard to know what a google search didn't return, especially as a layperson. It's not hard to see the model underperforming.

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

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Is there a reason these pelicans always have roughly the same composition (side-view, 2d, biking right, flat ground beneath, etc)? I don't see any of that detailed in the prompt, yet they all seem to generate roughly the same image of differing quality.

It's really interesting, isn't it? They almost always cycle from left to right - but I have had a few which cycle in the other direction. The 2D / flat ground feels reasonable for a SVG, which implies a vector illustration.

> They almost always cycle from left to right

Try searching "bike" in google image :)

Most bike images are from the right side, as that's where the mechanism is (gears, chain etc), so not surprising that LLMs reproduce this

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

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Muse Spark may be competitive in capabilities but it’s not for serious works since Meta trains on your prompts so no ZDR, in contrast Chinese provider like Z.AI promises ZDR which is more attractive to big corps.

Another poster has pointed to a statement by Mark Zuckerberg that they will release soon Muse Spark as open weights. While I agree with you for the Muse Spark as hosted by Meta, if it will be available in open weights form for self hosting, then there are good chances that it can become quite useful.

I’m not sure why I’d use theirs over the other open weights out there, or what profit motive Meta has.

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

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Yes, there is nuance. And, I have a Claude subscription partly because they showed more hesitation to provide surveillance tools for spying on US citizens than other vendors. They are not wholly free of ties to the US regime, but they've been better than others. But, I'll come back to "two things can be true". Anthropic is better than some, and in some regards they are navigating a complicated ethical landscape with…

it's possible that their rationale for making claims about safety is in fact that they, among everyone else, are doing the most to be prudently safe. While that's a powerful tool to compete with, that doesn't make them bad. Amodei and Anthropic have never said "open models are not safe because anyone can use them," in fact to the contrary, they've said "open-weights models that don’t have dangerous capabilities are a…

I mean when Anthropic made Fable sabotage the work of folks who they believed were working on competing products, by silently degrading performance.

They backtracked after pushback from users, making it an explicit downgrade to Opus.

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