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The most surprising thing I've seen in 2009, courtesy of Etherpad

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Re: The most surprising thing I've seen in 2009, courtesy of Etherpad

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post #23

This is so hot. I'm really blown away. It's also really interesting to watch a good writer go about editing. This is certainly a way to teach writing, besides the obvious method of practice.

i'd love to see how a piece of legislation gets written with something like this.

I was thinking git would be a great tool for legislation writing as well...

Re: The most surprising thing I've seen in 2009, courtesy of Etherpad

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post #18

This is interesting to watch. I notice you type something, you delete it, and then type something different quite a bit. When you write on paper, how do you deal with this constant deletion?

I do this too. I basically am a non-functioning writer unless I am on a computer. I guess I'm lucky I was born when I was.

Side note. Neal Stephenson wrote the Baroque Cycle out long hand. This post (http://blog.wired.com/sterling/2009/01/the-entire-terr.html) was from last month ago but I also remember 3 other pictures from several years ago. http://www.nealstephenson.com/photos.htm

I was completely dumbfounded when I first saw that stack of paper because I can barely manage to write a one line note to my wife without scratching something out. To undertake something as large as the Baroque cycle trilogy is really beyond my comprehension.

I don't know if he wrote Cryptonomicon this way also but my first edition is full of typos. Something I imagine could happen if you turn over several hundred hand written pages with edits to a typist.

Re: The most surprising thing I've seen in 2009, courtesy of Etherpad

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post #26
post #2

I've been wanting to play back the writing of an essay for years. Since Etherpad saves every keystroke, I convinced the founders to add a way to play them back. "Startups in 13 Sentences" was the first essay I wrote on Etherpad. Now I'm going to write all of them on it. Playback is just one little feature of Etherpad, but think of the implications of this alone. Among other things it will make cheating impossible in…

This is an incredible thing to watch! Can you do this with any piece of writing on Etherpad? What a great way of bringing attention to a start-up: make something that's inherently fascinating due to features. This is unlike anything online I've seen before because the functionality just doesn't exist anywhere else. So it's a great thing to watch and it also tells you about the service. I like that you keep constantly…

Can you do this with any piece of writing on Etherpad?

Anything you write with it now you will be able to play back like this soon. Etherpad is already saving all the keystrokes. They just haven't released the player yet. (This is a one-off prototype.)

Re: The most surprising thing I've seen in 2009, courtesy of Etherpad

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post #23

This is so hot. I'm really blown away. It's also really interesting to watch a good writer go about editing. This is certainly a way to teach writing, besides the obvious method of practice.

i'd love to see how a piece of legislation gets written with something like this.

That's actually a really good idea, even if all it showed you were successive drafts.

Re: The most surprising thing I've seen in 2009, courtesy of Etherpad

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how long did that take in real time?

It's so hard to guess. I remember it taking about 3 days, but not working all day. I know there were 5400 half-second intervals when I typed at least one keystroke (that's what the numbers at the top mean).

Re: The most surprising thing I've seen in 2009, courtesy of Etherpad

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post #18

This is interesting to watch. I notice you type something, you delete it, and then type something different quite a bit. When you write on paper, how do you deal with this constant deletion?

I think more before writing when it's on paper. The medium has more friction. But I haven't written anything for publication on paper since 1991, when I finished writing On Lisp on a stack of legal pads.

Re: The most surprising thing I've seen in 2009, courtesy of Etherpad

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A few years ago I stumbled on a wonderful art project where people used a similar technique to record world class poets as they wrote for 15 minutes. The site is still live at http://quickmuse.com/ if you want to see a poet laureate or two write poems. Robert Pinsky's poems are particularly fascinating to watch because he never makes a single edit or mistake.

Re: The most surprising thing I've seen in 2009, courtesy of Etherpad

#39
post #23

This is so hot. I'm really blown away. It's also really interesting to watch a good writer go about editing. This is certainly a way to teach writing, besides the obvious method of practice.

i'd love to see how a piece of legislation gets written with something like this.

"To retain respect for sausages and laws, one must not watch them in the making."

  -- Otto von Bismarck.

Re: The most surprising thing I've seen in 2009, courtesy of Etherpad

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post #18

This is interesting to watch. I notice you type something, you delete it, and then type something different quite a bit. When you write on paper, how do you deal with this constant deletion?

What's really interesting, is that you presume anyone actually would write on paper anymore, how old are you?
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