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Uber shuts operations in Nigeria and Uganda with immediate effect

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Re: Uber shuts operations in Nigeria and Uganda with immediate effect

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why they do that

In developing countries, the taxi market is largely unregulated and Uber faces actual competition. Uber cannot compete on price in these regions.

May be in developing countries. In developed countries, qualities matter. And Uber tends to do much better there, even with higher price.

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I have a controversial take: outside the US/Europe, Uber is mostly a tourist app. If you actually live in developing regions: 1) your income is much lower, and you are quite price sensitive. The Uber price premium (20-40%) hits much harder. 2) the Uber alternatives are noticeably cheaper for the exact same trip. Regarding your experience, if you were local, that inDrive driver likely would not have tried to extort $1…

My experience in Brazil: Uber is way cheaper here. Compared to what I paid in San Francisco, I'd estimate a ~10x difference. And things here are rarely 10x cheaper. The difference in restaurants is probably less than ~2x. My point being it probably feels like less of a luxury for us than for people in the US. I'd say it's probably the most popular app too. I've never met people who used others.

This was my experience using Uber in India many years ago. Rides around Hyderabad were like $2 USD.

Re: Uber shuts operations in Nigeria and Uganda with immediate effect

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US SOCOM also just pulled out of Nigeria. The rumor is that this is becoming politically sensitive, so the US DoW is turning things over to none other than Erik Prince (Blackwater, Xe, etc). Nigeria is an important source of minerals, for example: lithium. Africa is being hotly contested right now between ISIS, the US / West, China, and state-local political factions.

For lithium, isn’t South America and other parts of the world a better deal due to having the largest reserves and being more politically stable?

A lot of those places already have long term contracts and rights locked up.

Re: Uber shuts operations in Nigeria and Uganda with immediate effect

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has Uber had a positive ROI on the billions invested in it? I am pretty sure the return on the preferred price from the late rounds 10 years ago is basically zero. Net income has always been negative or close to zero. From a consumer perspective, in late stage cities, uber rides are the same or more expensive than old taxis, and the quality of vehicles is lower. what was it all worth?

net income was 80 billion in the last 2 years alone, what are you talking about?

Re: Uber shuts operations in Nigeria and Uganda with immediate effect

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exactly! it was more expensive, now taxi is often 20-30% cheaper and almost never more expensive

Nope, see above - 144 vs 80-90 right this moment, taxi is way more expensive.

in might be in Australia but certainly not in the US of A

Re: Uber shuts operations in Nigeria and Uganda with immediate effect

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People like the knowledge that they are not being ripped off by the person they are interacting with. On Uber you are essentially guaranteed that you are paying the absolute max that you would accept algorithmically, and the driver is getting the absolute least they would accept to drive for. If the balance shifts in any way, someone is ripping off the person they will interact with. Since the customer knows less abo…

While I agree, Uber's cut has reached predatory levels. They take 50% of the fare in some markets. They're significantly overcharging riders and underpaying drivers. https://len-sherman.medium.com/ubers-long-and-winding-road-t...

That's the whole goal with the pricing model. Its not predatory because the customer is still paying for it. There is a choice to not pay and use a different service. If there are reasons to not do so, we are not at the predatory levels yet.

Re: Uber shuts operations in Nigeria and Uganda with immediate effect

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People like the knowledge that they are not being ripped off by the person they are interacting with. On Uber you are essentially guaranteed that you are paying the absolute max that you would accept algorithmically, and the driver is getting the absolute least they would accept to drive for. If the balance shifts in any way, someone is ripping off the person they will interact with. Since the customer knows less abo…

That means Uber is screwing the driver and customer the algorithmically maximum amount. It should be less, and it should be in the driver's favor. They should be able to afford a decent living.

Well not really, if they were screwing people to the maximum people would be ordering cabs instead, the goal is to screw them for the maximal amount that they feel like they can to accept in the market that exists. Cabs might still screw you for more which is out of your control, so you don't take them.

Re: Uber shuts operations in Nigeria and Uganda with immediate effect

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Yes but what’s a taxi to the airport cost now? Otherwise the comparison doesn’t mean much.

exactly! it was more expensive, now taxi is often 20-30% cheaper and almost never more expensive

Great if true! Uber helped drive down costs for you.

Re: Uber shuts operations in Nigeria and Uganda with immediate effect

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post #75

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> US DoW To be clear, it is the DoD - Department of Defense

I mean... https://www.war.gov/ I get what you are saying, and you're not exactly wrong, but... If I called it DoW, people get mad and point it out. If I call it DoD, people get mad and point it out. And if I put both? Fuck all of you, I'm not mentioning both over and over like DoW/DoD is GNU/Linux :)

I get it, it's a weird time. I recommend not giving into the idiocy of the current US admin.
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