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Re: Audacity 4.0

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I just started the appimage - it asks you to login to the "cloud" but also offers a prominent skip button, and then asks if you want a telemetry UUID or not.

So even after the intense backlash Tantacrul saw on the GH threads, they went ahead and stuffed it full of telemetry anyway. Incredible.

He is pro age-verification with government IDs, what do you expect?

Re: Audacity 4.0

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Wasn't audacity taken over by a company sniffing for user data, some years ago? I noted this down into a local .yml file back in 2021, when Muse Group took over and wanted to telemetry-sniff people. I didn't pay attention to audacity past that point. Also, many accounts on hackernews act very suspiciously, with just raw promo as it if comes from an advertising account. I am noticing this increasingly, where people co…

AFAIK it was just regular usage telemetry. Audacity asks you on start if you want take part now.

Re: Audacity 4.0

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I have used old audacity and musescore-owned audacity, and I have to say it's a massive glow-up.

I use REAPER for most things, but audacity has found a nice little niche when it comes to recording voice clips because it just does it with less hassle.

It's in good hands.

Re: Audacity 4.0

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I highly recommend this video [1] by the Head of Software at Muse who had a big part in the development of Audacity 4.0. Some great insights and really fun to watch! [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYM3TWf_G38

Yes, Tantacrul. Pretty weird story, a composer and programmer who absolutely roasted the UIs of well known sheet music dinosaurs Finale and Sibelius in hilarious diss videos on YouTube. Then he conceded a bit reluctantly that Musescore was the better of the lot, but still had plenty of opinions on how it could be better. So the guitar tabs website which had then recently acquired Musescore offered him a job. Not just…

AFAIK, Francisco Partners was only involved in the Hal Leonard acquisition.

It was more of a partnership regarding Hal Leonard than ownership of Muse.

It seems after the Native Instruments fiasco, they (Francisco Partners) just decided to quit music altogether.

EDIT: I know a lot of people from Muse and Native Instruments and that's the impression a lot seem to have.

Re: Audacity 4.0

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I have been using Audacity 3 for making music with samples for a few years. And it sort of worked, but there were a lot of things that were inconvenient, like the project sometimes not saving, or getting a "clicking" noise across clips that I had to remove by manually fading in/out each end of the clip. I tried the Audacity 4 beta a while ago, and it seemed super clean and like it fixed a lot of stuff. I am pretty co…

> or getting a "clicking" noise across clips that I had to remove by manually fading in/out each end of the clip Are you sure this isn't just the typical "clip/crop a sample at the wrong moment, in the middle of a soundwave, and you'll get a pop/click"? This problem happens all across DAWs and hardware samplers and such, usually there is a way to "align to zero-crossings" when you wanna avoid it, or called something…

At least with Reaper, if you cut an audio clip it will, by default, automatically apply small adjustable fade in/out envelopes to the ends so you specifically don't have to manually do it.

Re: Audacity 4.0

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I have been using Audacity 3 for making music with samples for a few years. And it sort of worked, but there were a lot of things that were inconvenient, like the project sometimes not saving, or getting a "clicking" noise across clips that I had to remove by manually fading in/out each end of the clip. I tried the Audacity 4 beta a while ago, and it seemed super clean and like it fixed a lot of stuff. I am pretty co…

> or getting a "clicking" noise across clips that I had to remove by manually fading in/out each end of the clip Are you sure this isn't just the typical "clip/crop a sample at the wrong moment, in the middle of a soundwave, and you'll get a pop/click"? This problem happens all across DAWs and hardware samplers and such, usually there is a way to "align to zero-crossings" when you wanna avoid it, or called something…

I think you're right. Audacity does have a "zero-crossings" thing, but when I tried using it a long time ago, it didn't seem to work, and I just learned to do fade-in/out for everything. Maybe I did something incorrectly.

Re: Audacity 4.0

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I have been using Audacity 3 for making music with samples for a few years. And it sort of worked, but there were a lot of things that were inconvenient, like the project sometimes not saving, or getting a "clicking" noise across clips that I had to remove by manually fading in/out each end of the clip. I tried the Audacity 4 beta a while ago, and it seemed super clean and like it fixed a lot of stuff. I am pretty co…

> or getting a "clicking" noise across clips that I had to remove by manually fading in/out each end of the clip Are you sure this isn't just the typical "clip/crop a sample at the wrong moment, in the middle of a soundwave, and you'll get a pop/click"? This problem happens all across DAWs and hardware samplers and such, usually there is a way to "align to zero-crossings" when you wanna avoid it, or called something…

Yep that was my thought as well. Most DAWs default to a very quick cross fade when joining two clips for this very reason.

Re: Audacity 4.0

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Very disappointed to see a program I remembered fondly for its native-feeling interface and functional, wholegrain feeling turned into whatever this is. It’s akin to a nutrient-rich home cooked meal being replaced with McDonald’s. I should’ve known it was doomed from the moment I saw an advertisement for their Discord chat room in the readme.

open source apps can be insanely powerful (and free!) but a thing that keeps a lot of them from 'mainstream' adoption is simply the F-tier user experience gimp had the same issue and i wouldnt be surprised if you also miss the old GTK UI? making audacity feel like a modern app instead of a dusty relic isnt making it into McDonalds.. I for one applaud this upgrade -- its the polish it should have had years ago

I’ve long despised GTK and GIMP in general so I don’t think I’d like any form of its UI.

Re: Audacity 4.0

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> I can't think of any other time something good has come out of a private equity roll-up. Just remember bad news sells. I'm reasonably sure there are a number of other cases where this happens, likely most. However they are not big news and not memorable so I can't cite them.

If it happens all the time and it's positive, you shouldn't need a news story to confirm it. People should just be able to think of examples. Certainly I'm able to think of plenty of terrible results from private equity take-overs from my own personal experience as an employee or as a customer.

Well, many things may be going wrong before PE gets involved, or the owners may be retiring and it just will never be the same again even if PE didn't buy. So it's more likely to feel like bad news even if it was still a reasonable outcome.

As a public, well-known example, Dell being taken private in 2013 seemed to work out.

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