There have been two uncontained engine failures on the A380. The other one was in 2017: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_066
Qantas Airbus A380 engine failure in 2010 (2023)
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#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
Context to the lawsuit brought up by Go2Sky: https://avherald.com/h?article=53c8958a
That's disturbing. Ironically, the article in question was published July 4th last year. Note that the bar for defamation is a lot higher in the US than many other countries: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation#United_States
Re: Qantas Airbus A380 engine failure in 2010 (2023)
#73There have been two uncontained engine failures on the A380. The other one was in 2017: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_066
Both with zero injuries.
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#74I helped do the video recording and the website for the 2013 International Forum on Quality & Safety in healthcare that was held in London at the Excel Center.
One of the talks there was from Qantas Senior Check Captain David Evans, "Teamwork Under Duress" there, which was all about that flight and what happened.
It was an amazing talk, and I have a huge amount of respect for the job that airline pilots do.
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#75Qantas is a troubled airline. Once a Qantas aircraft technician even told me that Singapore Airlines have a far superior maintenance schedule for their aircraft. This person claims that he tells his family to avoid flying on Qantas ( but flies on it himself since he gets free flights) These days Han airlines ( SIA, Cathay,China Eastern) and Middle Eastern airlines (Emirates,Qatar) are far better than Western Airlines…
Ah yeah, China Eastern.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Eastern_Airlines_Flight_... Meanwhile Lufthansa had their last fatal crash in 1993. For British it was in 1976.
The absolutely insane thing about it is not even the accident itself (most airlines have had accidents) but the way it is handled in their equivalent of FAA and the government. From how they delayed issuing the visas for Boeing and other representatives to how they STILL have not released a report.
great example of why I would avoid any PRC airline if I can help it.
(Presumably one reason they don't want to release the report is because it would lead many others to do the same and they want to protect their airline profits, but of course it ensures that the problem will not be fixed the longer they delay it)
Re: Qantas Airbus A380 engine failure in 2010 (2023)
#76The whole incident was because of 0.2mm offset in a machined part! And the company that made the part ignored the quality compliance process was not fired. I wonder why - did Airbus think it’s their failure not to verify that the subcontractor adhered to procedures?
This feels more like engine manufacturer QC rather than anything Airbus. Because also, from Wikipedia: On 22 June 2011, Qantas announced that it had agreed to a compensation of AUD$95 million (£62 million/US$100 million) from Rolls-Royce. - skipping Airbus entirely.
The whole business of airliners engines is fascinating in its own.
AIUI when you're buying a plane from Airbus, it's possible/frequent to own the _airframe_; but not the engines — the engines are often _leased_ (sometimes directly from RR/GE); I've even heard of cases where each engine will be owned by a different entity!
https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/12528/jet-engin...
Re: Qantas Airbus A380 engine failure in 2010 (2023)
#77I once heard someone describe Admiral Cloudberg's air crash investigation blog as "the best thing on the Internet" and I still think that might be true. She is a great researcher and a superb writer, which stands out all the more these days in these fallen times of load-bearing AI slop. Her blog is beloved of both aviation geeks and, for obvious reasons, SREs (and other engineers). She recently posted what's basicall…
I would also highly recommend checking out Mentour Pilot channel on youtube as she is the writer for some episodes. Accident videos there have interesting technical details.
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#78"Even the airplane itself ultimately survived: after a marathon repair that lasted 535 days and cost $139 million, the A380 Nancy-Bird Walton triumphantly returned to the skies in 2012." This quote amazes me. My understanding is that Airbus, Qantas, and probably Rolls Royce were willing to spend this much because it meant that the incident was not a "hull loss" and therefore not as bad a hit to reputation and safety…
Qantas has never had a hull loss in the jet age. Its last fatal accident was with a 10-passenger propeller plane, back in 1951. It is widely regarded as the world's safest airline.
Being able to keep this "never lost a jetliner" / "no accident we couldn't fly away from in 75 years" marketing claim is worth a lot. It's also why Qantas Flight 1 (1999, runway overrun of a 747-400, no significant injuries), despite initially being a write-off, was repaired for over AU$100M and returned to service.
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#79Turbine disk failure is one thing that can down a plane, and you can only reduce the probability so much. Fan blades and turbine blades can be contained by containment cases if they break off, but turbine disks can't. When a disk breaks, it's an uncontained engine failure. A 20 kg disk fragment flying at Mach 1 goes through everything. Airframes are have a 30-degree fragment spread cone around every disk stage. Airfr…
I like to sit away from the wings to have a better view out the window, but not sitting in the fragment spread cone is probably also a good idea ;)
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#80> The detailed software allowed them to enter various parameters including the weather, runway condition, and any systems failures, and then calculate whether it was possible to land. But when everything had been entered, the program spit out an unhelpful answer: “no result.” > When calculating the landing distance, the software applied a generic “operational coefficient” to account conservatively for variations in p…
well airbus does hire in morocco
inb4 you are racis Im moroccan
I personally know a guy who faked his entire university record (dad is a local politician) and is now working at engine systems at airbus in france
he does have a winning smile though
europe is not ready to deal with third world achievement dynamics