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Fable 5.1 World Modeling

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Re: Fable 5.1 World Modeling

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Post by threecheese »

surreal_ wrote: post #38
avdelazeri wrote: post #6

I wish you would provide more information. About time, costs, reliability (how many duds did you have? did you need to do any babysitting or etc) and so on But it is a very impressive looking demo, for sure.

this is a one-shot result but i have a really really lengthy prompt: https://github.com/PhiloLabs/fable51-worlds/blob/main/union- ... with clear guidance in using subagents and self-QA loop. ~2 hour (extensive subagents usage), total ~8M tokens, ~$33 under API

Did you need to iterate on the prompt, or did you have a model help you author it? I frequently have problems with orchestration instructions in-prompt, and your is huge. Maybe this is just better with Fable? I honestly haven’t used it much.

Re: Fable 5.1 World Modeling

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Post by nomel »

julien_dev wrote: post #14

These things always look impressive but I fail to see how they are usable beyond demos or simple games. In my experience the topology is often a mess and texturing is difficult as well

Well, nothing now starts in a completed state. See pre-production footage for movies and video games, for how scenes progress.

Uncharted 4: https://youtu.be/NedDxIGQVs0&t=147

Coco: https://youtu.be/nl_JkjgHfFU&t=10

Up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHfLGgOs6gY

And, eventually you can just run it through Nvidia DLSS 7 for better hair physics and textures. ;)

Re: Fable 5.1 World Modeling

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Post by maest »

kodefreeze wrote: post #11

I have experimented with this type of modeling for a RTS game I'm building: https://playwarpact.com Few things: 1. Opus 5 is just as good for this tbh and cheaper. 2. They don't generate optimized 3d models. They have high poly count for simple geometries. 3. A better approach I've utilized for game ready assets is to use the model to create low poly silhouettes of the 3d model and then bake textures that include a l…

oh, it's "play war pact".

I read it as "play, warp, act"

Re: Fable 5.1 World Modeling

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Post by hartator »

kodefreeze wrote: post #11

I have experimented with this type of modeling for a RTS game I'm building: https://playwarpact.com Few things: 1. Opus 5 is just as good for this tbh and cheaper. 2. They don't generate optimized 3d models. They have high poly count for simple geometries. 3. A better approach I've utilized for game ready assets is to use the model to create low poly silhouettes of the 3d model and then bake textures that include a l…

Kind of interesting that most ai games want me to sign in.

Re: Fable 5.1 World Modeling

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Post by WordNotSee »

Fundamentally it’s an image model predicting out frames of a sequence.

It’s not enough to call it just an image model though. Not quite video either because it’s so specific to rendering images of the world.

Thus, “world model”?

The problem I have with “world” is it should imply so much more depth. To me this is actually a “POV image model” or “First-person perspective model” (maybe we call this an FPM).

There could also be TPMs (third-person models).

This maps better to modern game and 3D dev phrasing, where “world model” might imply 3D object collections spatially organized in a cohesive file format - complete with interactivity, audio, and all the baseline constituents of what one might call a “world”.

FPMs and TPMs, think about it. Reserve POVMs for photographic realism.

Re: Fable 5.1 World Modeling

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Post by breadsniffer01 »

nomel wrote: post #52
julien_dev wrote: post #14

These things always look impressive but I fail to see how they are usable beyond demos or simple games. In my experience the topology is often a mess and texturing is difficult as well

Well, nothing now starts in a completed state. See pre-production footage for movies and video games, for how scenes progress. Uncharted 4: https://youtu.be/NedDxIGQVs0&t=147 Coco: https://youtu.be/nl_JkjgHfFU&t=10 Up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHfLGgOs6gY And, eventually you can just run it through Nvidia DLSS 7 for better hair physics and textures. ;)

Woah amazing clips thanks for sharing! The GH repo is definitely in early stages and prob laying the ground work for using the real world as part of the pre production process for a game/movie, etc.

Re: Fable 5.1 World Modeling

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Post by OldDrunkGuy »

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Re: Fable 5.1 World Modeling

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Post by jatora »

hartator wrote: post #55
kodefreeze wrote: post #11

I have experimented with this type of modeling for a RTS game I'm building: https://playwarpact.com Few things: 1. Opus 5 is just as good for this tbh and cheaper. 2. They don't generate optimized 3d models. They have high poly count for simple geometries. 3. A better approach I've utilized for game ready assets is to use the model to create low poly silhouettes of the 3d model and then bake textures that include a l…

Kind of interesting that most ai games want me to sign in.

i know... i suffered through a long load but im not logging in without having even a semblance of clue what the game even is unfortunately
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