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Whistleblower warns Postal Service mail ballot system has catastrophic problems

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Re: Whistleblower warns Postal Service mail ballot system has catastrophic problems

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The entire state of Oregon has done vote-by-mail for the past ~30 years and it seems to have gone fine for them for decades. Then again, their voting by mail wasn't being challenged by an actively hostile Federal government for much of that time.

Re: Whistleblower warns Postal Service mail ballot system has catastrophic problems

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> Postal Service mail ballot system has catastrophic problems Yes. That's the point. The administration doesn't care about fixing whatever hypothetical mail ballot fraud may or may not exist; they are doing this to inject chaos into the election results, giving them cover to claim any result they want or even to just throw out the results entirely. Catastrophic problems are the means to that end.

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Those who are apt to discard responses to what they should have been apt to discard.

Re: Whistleblower warns Postal Service mail ballot system has catastrophic problems

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That's just fear mongering. Absentee voting by mail has been a thing for centuries. Attempting to limit it to people who are unable to vote in person doesn't do anything to make it more secure, and is a very weak control. It's not like they're going to check up on every single person who claims to have a specific reason they can't get to the polls. Beyond that, no-excuse absentee ballots have been a thing in many states for decades. Three states have been mailing absentee ballots to every voter automatically for a decade or more. Despite this long history, there is no evidence of widespread fraud or other problems resulting from it.

Re: Whistleblower warns Postal Service mail ballot system has catastrophic problems

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not American, but if I'm not mistaken, you don't have election day off like in other countries, right? If so, how is that not clearly discriminatory for those who can't afford the time to go.

No, Election Day is not a paid holiday, or even a recognized holiday. Public schools are generally out (at least the ones used as voting precints) but folks have work, and typically most "in person" votes are cast after 5pm (after folks traditionally leave work). Mail in voting has been something that the elderly, infirmed, workers, and folks in the military have done for decades. It's remarkably secure and quite aud…

> Mail in voting has been something that the elderly, infirmed, workers, and folks in the military have done for decades.

Very common for college students who go to school out of state as well. A conspicuously blue voting bloc.

Re: Whistleblower warns Postal Service mail ballot system has catastrophic problems

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good thing it's completely illegal for the federal government to interfere with state voting proceedure > For instance, the Postal Service has what the whistleblower claims is a "zero percent failure rate." > Mail workers would scan a sample of a batch of mail ballots — about 400 out of a batch of 10,000 or more — to verify it matches what is in the federal mail ballot portal. > Under the policy, if even one barcode…

Assuming they check 400 out of 10k, and assuming someone would want to cause any meaningful discrepancies >= 1% of the ballots, meaning 100 problematic ballots per 10k batch. This system would catch it 98,3% of the time. Pretty good, I'd say.

Ok now what's the potential false positive rate?

Re: Whistleblower warns Postal Service mail ballot system has catastrophic problems

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Then voting needs to be a national holiday with plenty of polling locations.

While I think that making it a national holiday would be a good idea because it would maximize the number of eligible voters, it would still disenfranchise some people. There are jobs that have to be done 24/7/365 (mostly safety jobs), therefor there will be someone who is stuck at work that day. There are people who work at power companies on Christmas Day just to make sure the lights on Christmas trees light up.

I think the best approach is what Georgia has done. No-excuse mail-in for those who want that. And 3 weeks of early voting including Saturdays. And for those who just enjoy standing in lines, there is the official Election Day. If a redneck state can get it done without issues, then we all can do it.

Re: Whistleblower warns Postal Service mail ballot system has catastrophic problems

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Your vague handwavey manner of writing sounds very presidential.

It's actually very specific. Look up the previous abuses of the US Postal Inspections Bureau and you will see exactly what I mean and why I've said it the way I've said it.
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