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Re: Muse Spark 1.3

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Post by tyre »

jwitthuhn wrote: post #113
tyre wrote: post #47

Meta is one of those companies where, if there is anything remotely comparable, I'm happy to pay more to not use them. They've had a profoundly negative impact on society and Zuckerberg is not who I want controlling the future at the top of AI. I feel the same about Grok w/ Elon. I will pay extra to use someone else. I'm not an Amodei stan, but of all of these people he seems to have the most ethical focus. Again, no…

Dario's idea of an ethical focus seems to be keeping powerful models out of the hand of anyone unethical, which coincidentally is everyone except him.

Yeah this would be a great point if it were true and they didn’t give Mythos access to companies to fix bugs, which they did and have.

It’s genuinely a difficult question. Not black and white. The models are really good at finding bugs, as demonstrated by people using Fable to reverse engineer. People make it sound like he’s just making it up.

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

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Post by 0xbadcafebee »

simonw wrote: post #3

llm -m meta-ai/muse-spark-1.3 "Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle" https://tools.simonwillison.net/markdown-svg-renderer?url=ht... 4.2266 cents, 38 seconds. For comparison here's Muse Spark 1.2, which animated it without me asking it to: https://tools.simonwillison.net/markdown-svg-renderer?url=ht... The 1.3 one is definitely better - better bicycle frame, better wing, better pelican hat. UPDATE: Here's an…

For all the comments of "I'm sure they're fine-tuning for pelicans": https://dylancastillo.co/posts/pelicanmaxxing.html

  "Sorry, HN haters, but there’s little evidence that AI labs are pelicanmaxxing.
   Or at least they’re not doing it in a plainly obvious manner."

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

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Post by ctolsen »

dbbk wrote: post #89
Lucasoato wrote: post #34

A model that (at least in benchmarks) is getting closer to SOTA. A clear separation between what’s used to improve their products and what’s not (at least this is what they claim). Good job Meta! Seriously. This is almost making me forget about the 18B$ lawsuit for children social media addiction.

How is it not SOTA? It's beating 5.6 Sol.

You gotta keep up. Fable 5.1 came out yesterday and is better so anything else is to be treated as garbage now.

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

#144

Post by tyre »

platinumrad wrote: post #124
tyre wrote: post #47

Meta is one of those companies where, if there is anything remotely comparable, I'm happy to pay more to not use them. They've had a profoundly negative impact on society and Zuckerberg is not who I want controlling the future at the top of AI. I feel the same about Grok w/ Elon. I will pay extra to use someone else. I'm not an Amodei stan, but of all of these people he seems to have the most ethical focus. Again, no…

Funny. Dario seems like the biggest snake in the industry to me and has leaned the hardest into doom marketing out of all of the influential leaders. With Altman (or Google), it's a transaction, and that's something I can live with.

I just don’t see how people have looked at what has happened with Mythos and the deluge of fixes from companies, then come to this conclusion.

He has a really hard job. He errs on the side of conservatism in releasing and then people get Really Mad.

Safeguards on cybersecurity are not great for Anthropic revenue! As evidenced by people getting pissed, moving to Sol, and them having a smaller market for what Fable can do.

It’s clearly bad for revenue and not great advertising to say, “you can’t use this but here is a nerfed version that will annoy you and not solve important problems.”

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

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Post by porphyra »

jwitthuhn wrote: post #113
tyre wrote: post #47

Meta is one of those companies where, if there is anything remotely comparable, I'm happy to pay more to not use them. They've had a profoundly negative impact on society and Zuckerberg is not who I want controlling the future at the top of AI. I feel the same about Grok w/ Elon. I will pay extra to use someone else. I'm not an Amodei stan, but of all of these people he seems to have the most ethical focus. Again, no…

Dario's idea of an ethical focus seems to be keeping powerful models out of the hand of anyone unethical, which coincidentally is everyone except him.

Dario's "ethical" look is also kinda sus. I hate to use ad hominem, but the dude's wife literally pitched a porn film to Epstein even after he was a convicted registered sex offender [1]. Dario is also really sinophobic (it is commonly claimed in Chinese AI circles that his former employment at Baidu triggered him so much that he harbors a personal grudge against the entire race).

[1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2026/08/14/who-is-...

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

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Post by tyre »

aftbit wrote: post #86
tyre wrote: post #47

Meta is one of those companies where, if there is anything remotely comparable, I'm happy to pay more to not use them. They've had a profoundly negative impact on society and Zuckerberg is not who I want controlling the future at the top of AI. I feel the same about Grok w/ Elon. I will pay extra to use someone else. I'm not an Amodei stan, but of all of these people he seems to have the most ethical focus. Again, no…

Okay but Muse Glimmer 30B is one of the best small open weight models today, and IMO the best from a US lab (only real comparison is Gemma4 dense right now).

Totally fine with open weight, since other people can provide it and Meta isn’t making money. I’d use an AWS-hosted version.

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

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Post by georgespencer »

drob518 wrote: post #70
tyre wrote: post #47

Meta is one of those companies where, if there is anything remotely comparable, I'm happy to pay more to not use them. They've had a profoundly negative impact on society and Zuckerberg is not who I want controlling the future at the top of AI. I feel the same about Grok w/ Elon. I will pay extra to use someone else. I'm not an Amodei stan, but of all of these people he seems to have the most ethical focus. Again, no…

Gotta be honest that I’m tired of the “I hate Zuck and Meta so much” comments every time Meta does anything. Ditto Elon/X. Fine, I get it. I don’t like Zuck either. But the post is about Muse Spark 1.3. What do you think about that? If you don’t like it because Meta made it, then maybe just don’t use it and stay silent.

> If you don’t like it […], then maybe just […] stay silent.

You might consider following your own advice.

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

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Post by apodolny »

I like the approach of providing a discounted version of the API that is used to train vs. the full price version. Seems reasonable and transparent.

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

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Post by 0xbadcafebee »

7734128 wrote: post #24

Practically free for "contributors" at 0.2 usd/mtok. That's going to be hard to say no to for hobbyists.

I'm wondering whether anyone has yet extracted AWS keys from a model trained on user input. Because users are definitely feeding secrets into these "contributor" models

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

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Post by biddit »

tyre wrote: post #47

Meta is one of those companies where, if there is anything remotely comparable, I'm happy to pay more to not use them. They've had a profoundly negative impact on society and Zuckerberg is not who I want controlling the future at the top of AI. I feel the same about Grok w/ Elon. I will pay extra to use someone else. I'm not an Amodei stan, but of all of these people he seems to have the most ethical focus. Again, no…

Strong disagree with the Anthropic being good at all part. This is not defending anyone else, but…

Anthropic leadership repeatedly presents themselves as uniquely morally qualified to steward agi and decide how humanity should get access to it. Yet they have repeatedly failed basic morality tests.

Pirating books for financial gain. The newer Sony/Warner music case shows this is pattern behavior.

Aggressively scraping other people's works, despite the authors' requests not to do so.

Then applying massive usage restrictions on their own work.

And probably the most disqualifying is backing away from their own hard AI safety commitments.

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