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Re: Muse Spark 1.3

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Post by meric_ »

tinyhouse wrote: post #30

I had no idea Meta has a coding agent harness. Does anyone have experience with it and can comment? The 1.3 contributor prices look very attractive. I'll probably start using their API if performance is good and the API is reliable with decent rate limits.

You should use their harness. They trained it on multiple harnesses but have specifically optimized it for their harness. Cline also did an independent experiment w spark 1.2 where using the native harness makes it use fewer tokens / turns to accomplish tasks

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

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Post by tintor »

hollowturtle wrote: post #117
simonw wrote: post #3

llm -m meta-ai/muse-spark-1.3 "Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle" https://tools.simonwillison.net/markdown-svg-renderer?url=ht... 4.2266 cents, 38 seconds. For comparison here's Muse Spark 1.2, which animated it without me asking it to: https://tools.simonwillison.net/markdown-svg-renderer?url=ht... The 1.3 one is definitely better - better bicycle frame, better wing, better pelican hat. UPDATE: Here's an…

Is there any point anymore regarding this svg test? I would not be surprised if in the training they're fine tuned for this task too

It would be very embarrassing for any lab to benchmaxx the pelican on bicycle svg prompt, since it would be very easy to detect it by varying the prompt.

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

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Post by Bluestein »

aftbit wrote: post #86
tyre wrote: post #47

Meta is one of those companies where, if there is anything remotely comparable, I'm happy to pay more to not use them. They've had a profoundly negative impact on society and Zuckerberg is not who I want controlling the future at the top of AI. I feel the same about Grok w/ Elon. I will pay extra to use someone else. I'm not an Amodei stan, but of all of these people he seems to have the most ethical focus. Again, no…

Okay but Muse Glimmer 30B is one of the best small open weight models today, and IMO the best from a US lab (only real comparison is Gemma4 dense right now).

I am finding Poolside's a decent model.-

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

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Post by platinumrad »

tyre wrote: post #47

Meta is one of those companies where, if there is anything remotely comparable, I'm happy to pay more to not use them. They've had a profoundly negative impact on society and Zuckerberg is not who I want controlling the future at the top of AI. I feel the same about Grok w/ Elon. I will pay extra to use someone else. I'm not an Amodei stan, but of all of these people he seems to have the most ethical focus. Again, no…

Funny. Dario seems like the biggest snake in the industry to me and has leaned the hardest into doom marketing out of all of the influential leaders. With Altman (or Google), it's a transaction, and that's something I can live with.

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

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Post by owebmaster »

luckylion wrote: post #111
canadaduane wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get it, but the underlying problem is: we don't have a society-wide, effective solution to counterbalancing extractive systems. Lacking a reliable label, we have to constantly signal what's on the ingredients list.

Are not all corporations extractive by nature? Google clearly is. That's obviously not the issue with that -- you don't see those comments on Google's AI announcements.

Yes you see. They get downvoted and flagged fast because there's a disproportionate amount of current and ex Google employees and stockholders around.

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

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Post by TacticalCoder »

tyre wrote: post #47

Meta is one of those companies where, if there is anything remotely comparable, I'm happy to pay more to not use them. They've had a profoundly negative impact on society and Zuckerberg is not who I want controlling the future at the top of AI. I feel the same about Grok w/ Elon. I will pay extra to use someone else. I'm not an Amodei stan, but of all of these people he seems to have the most ethical focus. Again, no…

Meta and Microsoft are two of the absolute worst evil companies on earth and Amodei is trying very hard to join them.

These Effective Altruists are despicable people: a bunch of thieves working to line up their own pockets while posturing as a force of good.

Remember that they schemed to not only present SBF as the 2nd coming of Christ (including in the NYT and in Forbes) but to also give him a voice after his scam had been uncovered. Thankfully, the judge didn't have any of this Effective Altruist bullshit.

SBF invested 500 millions of misappropriated funds in his buddy from the EA movement's Anthropic company (and, thankfully, the judge forced those shares to be sold: so SBF didn't get to be a billionaire).

You cannot hate enough people who say that harming others for the greater good is justified.

Then of course, already mentioned in this thread, there's the whole Epstein/Amodei's "I'm in the porn business" wife connection (where you don't need to squint much to see young women abused).

These kind of people are the absolute worst scum on this earth.

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

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Post by tintor »

simonw wrote: post #3

llm -m meta-ai/muse-spark-1.3 "Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle" https://tools.simonwillison.net/markdown-svg-renderer?url=ht... 4.2266 cents, 38 seconds. For comparison here's Muse Spark 1.2, which animated it without me asking it to: https://tools.simonwillison.net/markdown-svg-renderer?url=ht... The 1.3 one is definitely better - better bicycle frame, better wing, better pelican hat. UPDATE: Here's an…

Did any LLM so far draw pelican knees correctly and have them bend in opposite direction from human knees? Knees of many animals bend opposite to humans.

Did any LLM draw the front bicycle wheel correctly? ie. center of front wheel slightly AHEAD of steering wheel axis. This is done for bicycle stability.

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

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Post by samtheprogram »

devy wrote: post #114
tyre wrote: post #47

Meta is one of those companies where, if there is anything remotely comparable, I'm happy to pay more to not use them. They've had a profoundly negative impact on society and Zuckerberg is not who I want controlling the future at the top of AI. I feel the same about Grok w/ Elon. I will pay extra to use someone else. I'm not an Amodei stan, but of all of these people he seems to have the most ethical focus. Again, no…

> I'm not an Amodei stan, but of all of these people he seems to have the most ethical focus. Again, not everything done perfectly and I have my gripes, but of the leaders of frontier labs, I'll vote with my money. Amodei is NO Saint!!! He's the most savvy in drumming up the AI doomsday scenarios and haven't yet to apologized his failed forecast of Claude taking over 90% of the coding jobs.

He didn't say 90% of the coding jobs. He said LLMs would write 90% of the code. As in be LLM generated.
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