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Re: Muse Spark 1.3

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Post by a2ff6eeb0 »

redox99 wrote: post #79
kenjackson wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don't all suck equally. Here's the order, from best to worst. Amodei Google SamA Zuck Elon

You can ask 100 people and they'll all give you a different list. It's subjective. I think a less personal ranking would be, as a business owner, which of those providers is more dependable? As in, you don't care about evil, just your stuff working. I think maybe OpenAI?

Google. They have experience operating at scale, and AI is a big enough focus that they won't wind it down. All the big providers are kinda crappy, but if you want reliability, Google is the best option.

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

#92

Post by Yajirobe »

fouc wrote: post #72
tyre wrote: post #47

Meta is one of those companies where, if there is anything remotely comparable, I'm happy to pay more to not use them. They've had a profoundly negative impact on society and Zuckerberg is not who I want controlling the future at the top of AI. I feel the same about Grok w/ Elon. I will pay extra to use someone else. I'm not an Amodei stan, but of all of these people he seems to have the most ethical focus. Again, no…

How have they had a negative impact? How about google?

Enabled genocide in Myanmar

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

#93

Post by [deleted] »

drob518 wrote: post #70
tyre wrote: post #47

Meta is one of those companies where, if there is anything remotely comparable, I'm happy to pay more to not use them. They've had a profoundly negative impact on society and Zuckerberg is not who I want controlling the future at the top of AI. I feel the same about Grok w/ Elon. I will pay extra to use someone else. I'm not an Amodei stan, but of all of these people he seems to have the most ethical focus. Again, no…

Gotta be honest that I’m tired of the “I hate Zuck and Meta so much” comments every time Meta does anything. Ditto Elon/X. Fine, I get it. I don’t like Zuck either. But the post is about Muse Spark 1.3. What do you think about that? If you don’t like it because Meta made it, then maybe just don’t use it and stay silent.

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Re: Muse Spark 1.3

#94

Post by drob518 »

canadaduane wrote: post #82
drob518 wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gotta be honest that I’m tired of the “I hate Zuck and Meta so much” comments every time Meta does anything. Ditto Elon/X. Fine, I get it. I don’t like Zuck either. But the post is about Muse Spark 1.3. What do you think about that? If you don’t like it because Meta made it, then maybe just don’t use it and stay silent.

I get it, but the underlying problem is: we don't have a society-wide, effective solution to counterbalancing extractive systems. Lacking a reliable label, we have to constantly signal what's on the ingredients list.

Okay, but the comment I reacted to was not that. It was simply (paraphrasing) “I won’t use anything from Zuck/Meta.” If it had been, “Be careful because I have insider information that Zuck/Meta is using Muse Spark to do , and here’s my substantiation for that…” I’d be okay with it. That’s interesting information that moves a conversation forward. But it wasn’t. It was just content-free “I don’t like Zuck” nonsense.

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

#95

Post by Zambyte »

scottyah wrote: post #76
kenjackson wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don't all suck equally. Here's the order, from best to worst. Amodei Google SamA Zuck Elon

SamA better than Zuck? Zuck was at least a kid when he made a lot of his bad decisions, and he seems to be getting much better. Sam is on the reverse trajectory.

Sam is on a delayed trajectory of power, but he surely was not great when he was young either. See: Aaron Swartz calling him a sociopath who could not be trusted, well over a decade ago.

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

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Post by dbbk »

2001zhaozhao wrote: post #59
jumploops wrote: post #52

The "contributor" pricing is the standout here at a ~20x discount, if you allow training on your data. The model seems on par with Sol and Opus 5 on paper (admittedly on some older/saturated benchmarks, but very competitive for $). Stats: 1M context, $0.10 input/$0.002 cached, $0.20 output (Mtok)

I have a feeling that Meta is not gonna like what people actually use the contributor model for lol. (It's probably going to be a bunch of repetitive batch jobs like web search that have no training value)

Web Search doesn't have a discount on contributor pricing

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

#97

Post by troupo »

drob518 wrote: post #70
tyre wrote: post #47

Meta is one of those companies where, if there is anything remotely comparable, I'm happy to pay more to not use them. They've had a profoundly negative impact on society and Zuckerberg is not who I want controlling the future at the top of AI. I feel the same about Grok w/ Elon. I will pay extra to use someone else. I'm not an Amodei stan, but of all of these people he seems to have the most ethical focus. Again, no…

Gotta be honest that I’m tired of the “I hate Zuck and Meta so much” comments every time Meta does anything. Ditto Elon/X. Fine, I get it. I don’t like Zuck either. But the post is about Muse Spark 1.3. What do you think about that? If you don’t like it because Meta made it, then maybe just don’t use it and stay silent.

> But the post is about Muse Spark 1.3. What do you think about that?

That:

- like all models it was trained on stolen data

- additionally it was trained on Facebook users who were all opted in to AI training with a convoluted 10+ step process to opt-out of

> If you don’t like it because Meta made it, then maybe just don’t use it and stay silent.

Why should anyone stay silent?

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

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Post by monster_truck »

drob518 wrote: post #70
tyre wrote: post #47

Meta is one of those companies where, if there is anything remotely comparable, I'm happy to pay more to not use them. They've had a profoundly negative impact on society and Zuckerberg is not who I want controlling the future at the top of AI. I feel the same about Grok w/ Elon. I will pay extra to use someone else. I'm not an Amodei stan, but of all of these people he seems to have the most ethical focus. Again, no…

Gotta be honest that I’m tired of the “I hate Zuck and Meta so much” comments every time Meta does anything. Ditto Elon/X. Fine, I get it. I don’t like Zuck either. But the post is about Muse Spark 1.3. What do you think about that? If you don’t like it because Meta made it, then maybe just don’t use it and stay silent.

That's not how any of this works my man. Must be nice to think you live a life where neither has had a profound negative impact on your day to day
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