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Re: Uber is laying off 10% of staff

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Post by danielmarkbruce »

techgnosis wrote: post #40
danielmarkbruce wrote: post #39

"Over the last 5+ years, Uber has grown by orders of magnitude, with our top line nearly tripling" Orders of magnitude.

He didn't say "Uber has grown by orders of magnitude" == "top line nearly tripling" They are two separate statements. Maybe some portions of Uber did grow exponentially. Riders, revenue, miles travelled, etc... He also wants you to know that as part of that exponential growth, top line nearly tripled.

You can't give a concrete and nonsensical way Uber has grown 100x (minimum number of "orders") while revenue tripled.

Cannot be miles. Can't be riders. Can't be drivers. Revenue is top line, by definition.

This statement is as bad as the original. There is no need for hyperbolic statements that one doesn't even understand. "Uber has grown significantly" works. Why the need to sound so sophisticated and use terms like "orders of magnitude" ? It erodes trust by signaling "we are full of sh*t".

Re: Uber is laying off 10% of staff

#42

Post by lirolero »

danielmarkbruce wrote: post #41
techgnosis wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He didn't say "Uber has grown by orders of magnitude" == "top line nearly tripling" They are two separate statements. Maybe some portions of Uber did grow exponentially. Riders, revenue, miles travelled, etc... He also wants you to know that as part of that exponential growth, top line nearly tripled.

You can't give a concrete and nonsensical way Uber has grown 100x (minimum number of "orders") while revenue tripled. Cannot be miles. Can't be riders. Can't be drivers. Revenue is top line, by definition. This statement is as bad as the original. There is no need for hyperbolic statements that one doesn't even understand. "Uber has grown significantly" works. Why the need to sound so sophisticated and use terms like…

He’s basically saying Uber is much bigger than it was 5+ years ago. Revenue almost tripled, and the company added a lot more products, people, and complexity. “Orders of magnitude” here just means “a lot,” not literally 10x or 100x.

Re: Uber is laying off 10% of staff

#43

Post by s1artibartfast »

nitwit005 wrote: post #27
Artgor wrote: post #2

"In Pulse surveys and conversations with many of you, we’ve heard that too much work requires coordination across teams, debates take too long, and decision-making rights are unclear. I’m sure many of you have felt that you spend too much time “aligning” rather than building, shipping, or serving customers. To improve this, we have reduced roles primarily focused on coordination, and have clarified the remit of the c…

It's logical if you view them as unsuccessful. But if "decision-making rights are unclear" is listed, it seems unlikely those people were the problem.

I think the idea is that if you go from 10 decision makers to 5 decision makers, coordidination and securing a decision will become easier

Re: Uber is laying off 10% of staff

#44

Post by bamboozled »

lirolero wrote: post #42
danielmarkbruce wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't give a concrete and nonsensical way Uber has grown 100x (minimum number of "orders") while revenue tripled. Cannot be miles. Can't be riders. Can't be drivers. Revenue is top line, by definition. This statement is as bad as the original. There is no need for hyperbolic statements that one doesn't even understand. "Uber has grown significantly" works. Why the need to sound so sophisticated and use terms like…

He’s basically saying Uber is much bigger than it was 5+ years ago. Revenue almost tripled, and the company added a lot more products, people, and complexity. “Orders of magnitude” here just means “a lot,” not literally 10x or 100x.

Then he could just say uber has grown a lot?

Re: Uber is laying off 10% of staff

#45

Post by Varelion »

abhayaya wrote: post #38
Varelion wrote: post #26

If we could jump into this depression faster that would be great. I really want this shit over with.

Let us know how we can help you progress further down your desired DSM-IV/DSM-5 diagnostic chain (as those of us in red team work in security generally bounce between 1-5 times in a proxy chain, there is a lot of room for great fiction with words. RIP Venezuela). Between IPv6, SOCKS4/SOCKS5 (missing one in the dryer? You have proxied), linked lists, IDA debugger, threads/pthreads, RPCs, IPCs, and the wide wild world…

Claude, de-schitzo this post.

Re: Uber is laying off 10% of staff

#46

Post by s1artibartfast »

Plasmoid wrote: post #34
paimapi wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought it was common knowledge that 1) there was a hiring glut during COVID-19 for SWEs [0] that is now seen as a period of overhiring 2) private equity and larger institutional shareholders are seeing their commercial property investments bleed out [1]. research points to increased (or at least not diminished) efficacy of being fully remote [2] so there's obviously a trade-off that's pushing companies to assume t…

The least cynical take I've heard about RTO is that most managers are deeply under-trained to the point of being mostly incompetent. So forcing people into the office lets them do performative performance monitoring and project management. This makes their job "easier" in that they didn't know how to do it correctly in the first place.

Most managers aren't trained at all, and there's a massive shortage of good ones.

Re: Uber is laying off 10% of staff

#47

Post by missedthecue »

xingped wrote: post #36
RestlessMind wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“ The benefits of sitting together, collaborating in person, and solving problems as a team are clearer than ever in our post-Covid world.” 100%. Speaking only for myself, I was fully remote for a few years and that was a miserable experience. Now everyone is mandated to be in office 3 days a week and that works better for me. Uber is going one step further and structuring teams to be colocated with their manager. Th…

I love how most any RTO-proponent always presents RTO as "well I'm glad you're back in the office with me because that's better for me". Ask most any WFH-proponent about going to the office and the answer will read like "do whatever works best for yourself, I prefer WFH myself, you can go to the office if you want". It's a very selfish mindset, really. If RTO-proponents cared about not imposing their will on others,…

Well what do you expect? Holing yourself up in your home is something you can do unilaterally. In-person team collaboration requires... well, collaboration. It's not a unilateral action so there isn't unilateral advice.

Re: Uber is laying off 10% of staff

#48

Post by missedthecue »

danielmarkbruce wrote: post #39

"Over the last 5+ years, Uber has grown by orders of magnitude, with our top line nearly tripling" Orders of magnitude.

I have noticed that "orders of magnitude" is getting the same colloquial treatment that has long-since happened to "decimated". That is, a departure in common parlance from the technical meaning of the word to one used to communicate a general description of largeness.

Re: Uber is laying off 10% of staff

#49

Post by kingstnap »

danielmarkbruce wrote: post #41
techgnosis wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He didn't say "Uber has grown by orders of magnitude" == "top line nearly tripling" They are two separate statements. Maybe some portions of Uber did grow exponentially. Riders, revenue, miles travelled, etc... He also wants you to know that as part of that exponential growth, top line nearly tripled.

You can't give a concrete and nonsensical way Uber has grown 100x (minimum number of "orders") while revenue tripled. Cannot be miles. Can't be riders. Can't be drivers. Revenue is top line, by definition. This statement is as bad as the original. There is no need for hyperbolic statements that one doesn't even understand. "Uber has grown significantly" works. Why the need to sound so sophisticated and use terms like…

They are simply measuring in base 1.7 :^)

Uber has grown 2 orders of magnitude!

Re: Uber is laying off 10% of staff

#50

Post by danielmarkbruce »

missedthecue wrote: post #48
danielmarkbruce wrote: post #39

"Over the last 5+ years, Uber has grown by orders of magnitude, with our top line nearly tripling" Orders of magnitude.

I have noticed that "orders of magnitude" is getting the same colloquial treatment that has long-since happened to "decimated". That is, a departure in common parlance from the technical meaning of the word to one used to communicate a general description of largeness.

Sure, but the use of "decimated" is used approximately correctly in most cases, even if not precisely right. And it is a cool sounding word, and it's one word.

"Orders of magnitude" is three words when one would do, it's used to sound sophisticated, and it's use is off by... an order of magnitude or so... in many cases

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