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The Post-AI Internet Doesn't Look Great

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Re: The Post-AI Internet Doesn't Look Great

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Post by jstummbillig »

gonzalohm wrote: post #8

It's not just the internet, it's everything. Every document I read at work has been AI generated at some capacity. It's becoming so annoying that I have to use AI to create a summary. I don't know if anyone agrees, but AI generated documents are so verbose and explain things in an overcomplicated way that makes me exhausted after reading. Sometimes I don't even understand what AI is trying to explain

Most likely outcome seems to be that this period will be over very quickly, and we will have better writing than ever before, forever.

We should probably put some more thought toward that part and what it will mean.

Re: The Post-AI Internet Doesn't Look Great

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Post by rwmj »

jstummbillig wrote: post #21
gonzalohm wrote: post #8

It's not just the internet, it's everything. Every document I read at work has been AI generated at some capacity. It's becoming so annoying that I have to use AI to create a summary. I don't know if anyone agrees, but AI generated documents are so verbose and explain things in an overcomplicated way that makes me exhausted after reading. Sometimes I don't even understand what AI is trying to explain

Most likely outcome seems to be that this period will be over very quickly, and we will have better writing than ever before, forever. We should probably put some more thought toward that part and what it will mean.

Those people will stop really understanding anything because they defer all their writing (and so thinking) to machines. They will get stupider and stupider.

Re: The Post-AI Internet Doesn't Look Great

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Post by spicyjpeg »

icedchai wrote: post #18
gonzalohm wrote: post #8

It's not just the internet, it's everything. Every document I read at work has been AI generated at some capacity. It's becoming so annoying that I have to use AI to create a summary. I don't know if anyone agrees, but AI generated documents are so verbose and explain things in an overcomplicated way that makes me exhausted after reading. Sometimes I don't even understand what AI is trying to explain

It's happening everywhere. We have people using AI to generate documents, then using the same AI to read/summarize them. What is the point? The writing itself, especially with recent Claude models, is often incredibly awkward.

I like to call this phenomenon "reverse compression", or occasionally "depression". It's even lossy and subject to generational loss.

Re: The Post-AI Internet Doesn't Look Great

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Post by jaggederest »

gizajob wrote: post #19

If AI slop completely kills social media then that’ll only be a good thing. Bring it on down.

Directionally I think social media is going to be regarded like tetraethyl lead and asbestos. (So is a lot of the ways we use plastic, though maybe not actual e.g. polyethlyene itself)

Re: The Post-AI Internet Doesn't Look Great

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Post by gizmo686 »

jstummbillig wrote: post #21
gonzalohm wrote: post #8

It's not just the internet, it's everything. Every document I read at work has been AI generated at some capacity. It's becoming so annoying that I have to use AI to create a summary. I don't know if anyone agrees, but AI generated documents are so verbose and explain things in an overcomplicated way that makes me exhausted after reading. Sometimes I don't even understand what AI is trying to explain

Most likely outcome seems to be that this period will be over very quickly, and we will have better writing than ever before, forever. We should probably put some more thought toward that part and what it will mean.

Why is that the most likely outcome?

The history of automation is filled with cases where the result has been lower quality goods at lower prices.

Re: The Post-AI Internet Doesn't Look Great

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Post by elevation »

gonzalohm wrote: post #8

It's not just the internet, it's everything. Every document I read at work has been AI generated at some capacity. It's becoming so annoying that I have to use AI to create a summary. I don't know if anyone agrees, but AI generated documents are so verbose and explain things in an overcomplicated way that makes me exhausted after reading. Sometimes I don't even understand what AI is trying to explain

> in an overcomplicated way that makes me exhausted after reading

This. I can't even listen to youtube videos any more because of their chat-gpt generated scripts. LLMs will readily generate several pages of superfluous prose, rehashing the same idea with punchy witticisms for no reason. But it uses such compelling connecting words that you might be tricked into believing there will be a payoff long past the point of diminishing returns.

I have been enjoying reading literary classics for their poetic concision. Sometimes, a bit of context can allow a simple sentence to form a picture in your mind's eye that would take a few minutes to explain syllogistically. I wish to communicate more like that.

Re: The Post-AI Internet Doesn't Look Great

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Post by nxc18 »

jstummbillig wrote: post #21
gonzalohm wrote: post #8

It's not just the internet, it's everything. Every document I read at work has been AI generated at some capacity. It's becoming so annoying that I have to use AI to create a summary. I don't know if anyone agrees, but AI generated documents are so verbose and explain things in an overcomplicated way that makes me exhausted after reading. Sometimes I don't even understand what AI is trying to explain

Most likely outcome seems to be that this period will be over very quickly, and we will have better writing than ever before, forever. We should probably put some more thought toward that part and what it will mean.

Why do you think that? We’ve had this exact problem since the GPT3 moment and it has not improved at all. Not even a little, unlike agentic coding. Why do we expect a horizontal line to suddenly go exponential?

Also, it seems that writing encodes far more information about personality and mental state of the writer than it seems at first glance. A key problem is that machine-generated writing does not have this, it is obvious that it doesn’t have this, and there is no path towards fixing it.

Re: The Post-AI Internet Doesn't Look Great

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Post by odie5533 »

jstummbillig wrote: post #21
gonzalohm wrote: post #8

It's not just the internet, it's everything. Every document I read at work has been AI generated at some capacity. It's becoming so annoying that I have to use AI to create a summary. I don't know if anyone agrees, but AI generated documents are so verbose and explain things in an overcomplicated way that makes me exhausted after reading. Sometimes I don't even understand what AI is trying to explain

Most likely outcome seems to be that this period will be over very quickly, and we will have better writing than ever before, forever. We should probably put some more thought toward that part and what it will mean.

We're coming up on 4 years into the AI-slop season of the internet. Just one more year and then we all go extinct?
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