I wonder how much the progress is slowed down just because most companies don't train on consumer convos. Assuming they really don't.
Can I opt out of my input or output data being used for training?
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Re: Can I opt out of my input or output data being used for training?
#132Realistically, what are the risks? I get not wanting info you provide to AI being used against you in the future, like if you are gay and move to a country where that’s illegal (or live in one where it becomes illegal), but is “training” an actual risk here?
I would assume that PII is redacted, and so beyond redaction failure, the real risk here seems to be to intellectual property and not to personal privacy.
Edit: Does “use for training” include “we store all your chat logs forever tied to your identity”?
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#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Today I registered a free account with Grok, because I simply was curious. Man, training is "off" by default even with the free tier. I was positively surprised. As a European I'm disappointed too.
Lol, I'm fully expecting in 6 months time: "A bug in our portal had the setting for training inverted. This means that when you expected us not to be training on your data, we actually were. We know this adversely impacts the trust our users invested in us, so as of today we are crediting all affected accounts with $200 to use on our latest models".
One can expect a lot what happens in 6 months. Maybe the earth will turn clockwise then! Think about it. :-D
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#134Re: Can I opt out of my input or output data being used for training?
#135Submitted title was "Mistral now trains on user input by default, except on enterprise tier". THat's good information (if true) but best suited to a comment in the thread rather than the title (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...).
We've changed it to the article title now per https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
Re: Can I opt out of my input or output data being used for training?
#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lol, I'm fully expecting in 6 months time: "A bug in our portal had the setting for training inverted. This means that when you expected us not to be training on your data, we actually were. We know this adversely impacts the trust our users invested in us, so as of today we are crediting all affected accounts with $200 to use on our latest models".
One can expect a lot what happens in 6 months. Maybe the earth will turn clockwise then! Think about it. :-D
Lol. I would have thought it depended more on your relative position to the equator than on the season.
Re: Can I opt out of my input or output data being used for training?
#137Realistically, what are the risks? I get not wanting info you provide to AI being used against you in the future, like if you are gay and move to a country where that’s illegal (or live in one where it becomes illegal), but is “training” an actual risk here? I would assume that PII is redacted, and so beyond redaction failure, the real risk here seems to be to intellectual property and not to personal privacy. Edit:…
The retain it for "the duration necessary to achieve the intended purposes", which could mean forever.
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#138Context: After careful research our organization preferred a European partner with good central privacy controls. We landed on Mistral, after being disappointed that the Pro tier was opt-in to training on prompts by default we switched up to the Team tier which provides an organization dashboard with some relevant settings. As we did that Mistral changed these options and the Team tier was now also opt-in by default…
> being disappointed that the Pro tier was opt-in to training on prompts by default
"Opt-in" means that the default is non-participation, for example, not training on your prompts. Is it possible that you intended to say "opt-out", which means that the default is participation? That's what the context seems to suggest.
See, for example, https://termly.io/resources/articles/opt-in-vs-opt-out/:
> Data privacy laws like the GDPR and CCPA give individuals the right to opt in or out of different data processing activities.
> · Opt in consent means the user takes an action to show they agree to something,
> · Opt out consent is when they take an action to say no.
Or https://bigid.com/blog/opt-in-vs-opt-out-consent/:
> • Opt-in consent requires users to actively agree before data collection or processing.
> • Opt-out consent allows data collection by default unless the user declines.
This is an important distinction, because confusing the two (as you seem to be doing) can lead you both into unethical fraud and legal liability.
Re: Can I opt out of my input or output data being used for training?
#139Realistically, what are the risks? I get not wanting info you provide to AI being used against you in the future, like if you are gay and move to a country where that’s illegal (or live in one where it becomes illegal), but is “training” an actual risk here? I would assume that PII is redacted, and so beyond redaction failure, the real risk here seems to be to intellectual property and not to personal privacy. Edit:…
Seems in USA you can go to jail for going somewhere else to legally have an abortion. So for example that.
Re: Can I opt out of my input or output data being used for training?
#140You have to be rather naive if you don't think these companies don't simply train on your prompts with or without your consent. They literally scrape everything - legal or not - and claim its fair use to train on, including straight piracy
The idea that they'll steal from everyone except you is just wishful thinking