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Play Store blocks AuroraStore, hurting GrapheneOS users

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Re: Play Store blocks AuroraStore, hurting GrapheneOS users

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Even in the last days? If you use anonymous accounts it seems to affect everyone, when it works it only works for a few downloads

Yeah, just updated my apps without an account.

Maybe you've been lucky, unless a user's location or activity plays a part in the issue

Re: Play Store blocks AuroraStore, hurting GrapheneOS users

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> I hope it's not too annoying for their community There's plenty of people like that in the GOS community (the forum and the Matrix). Everyone generally understands that different people have different threat models and may want to do things that aren't the most secure. Otherwise everyone would be using GOS in airplane mode with disabled cameras and only paying for things with Monero. The core dev team is obviously…

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Re: Play Store blocks AuroraStore, hurting GrapheneOS users

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For a while as in more than a few weeks, when the current issues began? Have you looked for help? It sure isn't because of any Google component being disabled

I had last successsful update on August 26, which I wouldnt call for a while, tried yesterday, I've got error messages everyone mentions today I bothered to try various anonymous Aurora accounts and found finally the one working (like 5th in row) and updated the apps, I can live with updates once a week, not exactly sure what is OP doing I mean if they are really rate limited just give me waiting time, I don't really…

Unfortunately Google doesn't return a waiting time, and the limits are probably high enough to be irrelevant for normal users (although I've seen articles of it happening on the Play Store, over the years).

Re: Play Store blocks AuroraStore, hurting GrapheneOS users

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Please add to the title "... and all other degoogled devices", which are many orders of magnitude more than GOS: almost all Huawei devices (degoogled out of the box), custom Roms, rooted and all non-logged in. I am a non-GOS hurt victim.

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Re: Play Store blocks AuroraStore, hurting GrapheneOS users

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GOS's intended audience are those who are in danger of being hacked or persecuted, not privacy conscious users trying to escape surveillance. Google, for all their faults, is pretty unlikely to hack your phone and reveal your secrets.

Re: Play Store blocks AuroraStore, hurting GrapheneOS users

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> Google Account that isn't tied to anything else. At the risk of being a privacy absolutist / fatalist: Google’s entire business model is surveillance. They follow you around and track your habits so you can be influenced. Given that, a Google account is always tied to something else.

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GrapheneOS is a privacy first project. Security is improved for the sake of privacy.

Re: Play Store blocks AuroraStore, hurting GrapheneOS users

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As far as I'm aware, they do not get the security patches and early bulletin access from Google. They get that from an undisclosed OEM.

The OEM is Motorola. The partnership was announced earlier this year.

You are correct about them not getting early access from Google. There was a post within the last few months saying that Google no longer releases a lot of the code via git, but instead requires submitting a form and downloading the code via Google Drive. Google are actively trying to make third-party development difficult.

Re: Play Store blocks AuroraStore, hurting GrapheneOS users

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GrapheneOS actually recommends against using Aurora and instead just using the Play Store, so this shouldn't really hurt users. For extra privacy, you can sign into the Play Store with a Google Account that isn't tied to anything else.

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Re: Play Store blocks AuroraStore, hurting GrapheneOS users

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I use Aurora on GOS. I get that they say sandboxed Play is more secure than Aurora, but I prefer it for its lack of toxicity and absence of shitty dark patterns. I think the increased popularity of GOS is going to draw in more users like me who picked it for reasons adjacent to Graphene's original purpose, and I hope it's not too annoying for their community.

> I get that they say sandboxed Play is more secure than Aurora

I don't see the word "privacy" in that sentence though.

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