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Re: Gemini 3.8 Flash and 3.8 Flash Cyber

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Post by jauntywundrkind »

simonw wrote: post #200

The speed combined with the fact that this thing is really good at HTML JavaScript is pretty exciting. Here's what I got for 1.8 cents and 13 seconds from the prompt "make me a cool thing in html": https://gisthost.github.io/?6a77bc41a81718c6aaa10d4ab243c59f Transcript here (it was part of a chat): https://gist.github.com/simonw/b6149a49d327164d67d62c3d12992...

it's such a weird split how most AI companies are trying to be the best, but Google really has a different mission statement. they already have users. lots of users. they need to be working on building models they can deploy and use with the most number of people, as they already have the users.

i don't know if Gemini models per se are fully is in line with that purpose, but the results we see keep seeming to be in-line with that split-of-focus.

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Post by estetlinus »

simonw wrote: post #200

The speed combined with the fact that this thing is really good at HTML JavaScript is pretty exciting. Here's what I got for 1.8 cents and 13 seconds from the prompt "make me a cool thing in html": https://gisthost.github.io/?6a77bc41a81718c6aaa10d4ab243c59f Transcript here (it was part of a chat): https://gist.github.com/simonw/b6149a49d327164d67d62c3d12992...

LLM: produces a toolbox of an id and a clock

User: use them both

Made me giggle.

Re: Gemini 3.8 Flash and 3.8 Flash Cyber

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Post by greenavocado »

handzhiev wrote: post #292
greenavocado wrote: post #261

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How are you able to get lots of usage out of it cost effectively?

Google One plans are quite a good value actually - for a few bucks you get more Gemini plus space in Drive and other extras. Even through API, $3.75 for nearly Sol-level quality isn't that bad. And let's not forget you can use it for free in AI Studio, and in the user app (even free accounts get tons of usage, though it's still 3.6 there), and in Antygravity.

That's the thing. I am completely lost because there are so many redundant paths to get the same thing and I'm trying to figure out which one is the best deal

Re: Gemini 3.8 Flash and 3.8 Flash Cyber

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Post by cousinbryce »

colechristensen wrote: post #166
jampa wrote: post #113

I've been using Gemini 3.7 for my personal trip planning app. Across multiple benchmarks, it ranks higher on everything I tried: - Real world knowledge (when a thing opens and closes, the geographic region, historical facts). It's also the best at taking a cluster of places and working out a visiting order. - Photo ranking (which photo should be the hero). Gemini can tell whether a photo is of the thing or of the vie…

I started trying out 3.7 Flash this week and it is competitive with opus/fable and also FAST. It is getting work done that anthropic models were struggling with and the speed with which it does is quite a bit noticeably faster. Beginning to think Google is a dark horse in this race and some of Anthropic's "everything feels janky and rushed" karma is going to catch up.

I use Gemini because I feel like Google will win the AI race, and it’s Good Enough

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Post by ipsod »

Diederich wrote: post #299
ipsod wrote: post #57

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They've been my bet to win the AI race for a while. I was starting to doubt, but this 3.6, 3.7, and 3.8 arc has anchored me.

Totally agree. When this current wave of GenAI really started heating up, I guess 2020-2021, my analysis was very straightforward. What are the high level inputs to long-term success? I basically came up with a couple of criteria: 1. Data. Lots of data. 2. Money. Lots of money. 3. Access to necessary hardware. 4. Business alignment/will to do it. 5. Access to talent, current and future. This is certainly incomplete/n…

Not only do they have access to the hardware - they've been developing it in-house for years.

Re: Gemini 3.8 Flash and 3.8 Flash Cyber

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Post by badlucklottery »

simonw wrote: post #200

The speed combined with the fact that this thing is really good at HTML JavaScript is pretty exciting. Here's what I got for 1.8 cents and 13 seconds from the prompt "make me a cool thing in html": https://gisthost.github.io/?6a77bc41a81718c6aaa10d4ab243c59f Transcript here (it was part of a chat): https://gist.github.com/simonw/b6149a49d327164d67d62c3d12992...

Definitely cool.

I noticed it felt a little janky on my PC despite being "60 FPS"...then I noticed the "60 FPS" is hard-coded into the HTML.

Re: Gemini 3.8 Flash and 3.8 Flash Cyber

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Post by MadameMinty »

scosman wrote: post #278
simonw wrote: post #85

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The Gemini models have openly trained for SVG output, apparently with a specialism on animals in forms of transport! https://twitter.com/JeffDean/status/2024525132266688757

Community effort happening here to build the ideal dataset: https://github.com/scosman/pelicans_riding_bicycles

Nice. Really high quality SVG pelicans riding bicycles here.

Re: Gemini 3.8 Flash and 3.8 Flash Cyber

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Post by replwoacause »

addandsubtract wrote: post #264
andreygrehov wrote: post #170

I don't use Gemini, but I thought `cool, let's give this new model a try`. Opened gemini.google.com, and I'm not even surprised. The drop down gives me the following options: - Flash-Lite - 3.6 Flash [new] - 3.1 Pro The above is why i don't use LLM products from Google. If the model is not available right this minute (heck, hours before the release!), then I'm not gonna bother getting back to it tomorrow, because tom…

As someone with a Pro subscription, I had access to 3.7 the day it came out. Expecting to have access to 3.8 now, too. It's only the free accounts that are behind.

I'm a Plus subscriber using a Gmail address and still only see 3.6
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