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Re: Gemini 3.8 Flash and 3.8 Flash Cyber

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Currently top at https://deepswe.datacurve.ai - beating Opus 5! https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/gemini-3-8-flash shows an intelligence score of 59, the same as Opus 5 medium! Wow - for a flash model this seems to benchmark powerfully. Remains to be seen what it is like to use.

Crushing it on DeepSWE is a very big deal. Excited to give this a try.

Re: Gemini 3.8 Flash and 3.8 Flash Cyber

#43
Is the Gemini CLI still terrible compared to Claude Code and Codex? The harness the main thing holding back Google models as they could've been the best given all the advantages in compute capacity and training data they initially had, where now even the Google CEO said they're falling behind in agentic tasks, which is sort of a vicious cycle because RLHF relies on human usage.

Re: Gemini 3.8 Flash and 3.8 Flash Cyber

#45

Currently top at https://deepswe.datacurve.ai - beating Opus 5! https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/gemini-3-8-flash shows an intelligence score of 59, the same as Opus 5 medium! Wow - for a flash model this seems to benchmark powerfully. Remains to be seen what it is like to use.

We'll see about that. I suspect benchmaxxing as all the labs do as I haven't found Gemini models to be nearly as good in agentic engineering compared to Claude or GPT models.

Re: Gemini 3.8 Flash and 3.8 Flash Cyber

#46

Currently top at https://deepswe.datacurve.ai - beating Opus 5! https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/gemini-3-8-flash shows an intelligence score of 59, the same as Opus 5 medium! Wow - for a flash model this seems to benchmark powerfully. Remains to be seen what it is like to use.

>shows an intelligence score of 59, the same as Opus 5!

...on Medium reasoning. Claude Opus 5 (high) is the default in e.g. Claude Code and scores 61. Still very impressive.

Re: Gemini 3.8 Flash and 3.8 Flash Cyber

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Wait, I didn't realize 3.7 Flash was already beating Sol on a bunch of the benchmarks. Isn't it a way smaller models?

IDK if it's smaller, but I know it's way faster. In one test I did, Flash 3.7 high was ~9.4x faster than Luna High. But, also... Sol crushes Flash 3.7 at writing code in a codebase of any size beyond "tiny". Flash is my go-to for prototyping, and basically anything that isn't writing production code.

The only company with a proper TPU set-up is bound to have the fast models, now add a market cap like Google to the mix.

Re: Gemini 3.8 Flash and 3.8 Flash Cyber

#50
And yet again another failed launch from Google. I pay for their AI plus Google one package to get more cloud storage (have no interest in their AI bundle but you have to pay). and all I see in the Gemini app is 3.6-flash
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