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Ending my elixir exploratory writing

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Re: Ending my elixir exploratory writing

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> discussion has collapsed I used to be extremely active on Elixir Forum. It was the main place I would interact with people online, and HN was a bit of a distant second. Now HN usage has spiked a bit and I now have a... ugh... reddit account. There is still some decent discussion there, but it's largely library announcements (many vibe coded), some blog posts (that are often about AI), and news posts. Questions abou…

It was a nice place pre-LLMs. One of the better communities imo.

Re: Ending my elixir exploratory writing

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post #9

> discussion has collapsed I used to be extremely active on Elixir Forum. It was the main place I would interact with people online, and HN was a bit of a distant second. Now HN usage has spiked a bit and I now have a... ugh... reddit account. There is still some decent discussion there, but it's largely library announcements (many vibe coded), some blog posts (that are often about AI), and news posts. Questions abou…

It doesn't help that the default page changed from the form to whatever the fuck it is now that requires multiple steps to see comments.

Second this, some of the worst UX I’ve seen in a long time and a classical example of why you shouldn’t fix what isn’t broken.

Re: Ending my elixir exploratory writing

#33

> discussion has collapsed I used to be extremely active on Elixir Forum. It was the main place I would interact with people online, and HN was a bit of a distant second. Now HN usage has spiked a bit and I now have a... ugh... reddit account. There is still some decent discussion there, but it's largely library announcements (many vibe coded), some blog posts (that are often about AI), and news posts. Questions abou…

there is a running joke among a part of the community that goes something like "0 days since last persistent workflow orchestration library announcement".

I feel like Elixir community is a bit too nice to call out obvious slop (some folks straight out post LLM-generated blog posts every week or so), so instead we could focus on elevating human effort. Recent Oban release for example had a note that all the docs a human-written. We should praise this!

Re: Ending my elixir exploratory writing

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I have come to the same conclusion in my personal technical writing. I am loath to share ideas to the scraper marketplace just to have some executive prompt an LLM 2 years from now and claim the idea for themselves. I am weary of sharing my academic work with a chatbot as well.

"I don't want to share my ideas in case someone might benefit from them" is a strange attitude for an academic.

Sharing ideas involves communication which happens between two or more brains.

Prompted LLLM output only involves brains on the input side, the source training data. Nothing is communicated to the end user brain because they don’t try to understand the output and never had the knowledge or experience necessary to do so if they wanted to.

Re: Ending my elixir exploratory writing

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Oh, wow. I did absolutely not expect to end up on the front page with this one as it was a lot more personal than the rest of my posts... well, now I'm here and will be happy to chat Edit, for the person whose comment is marked dead under mine and thus I cannot answer to : I was already very wary of publishing packages, because all abandoned packages start with a good intention. Now I will only publish something I de…

Hi there, fellow Elixir blogger there! For me personally the advent of LLMs had the opposite effect: if world is going to be filled with garbage, however bad my writing is, at least it's going to be human. If you ever decide to write again, just know that some people out there still care!

Re: Ending my elixir exploratory writing

#36

> discussion has collapsed I used to be extremely active on Elixir Forum. It was the main place I would interact with people online, and HN was a bit of a distant second. Now HN usage has spiked a bit and I now have a... ugh... reddit account. There is still some decent discussion there, but it's largely library announcements (many vibe coded), some blog posts (that are often about AI), and news posts. Questions abou…

there is a running joke among a part of the community that goes something like "0 days since last persistent workflow orchestration library announcement". I feel like Elixir community is a bit too nice to call out obvious slop (some folks straight out post LLM-generated blog posts every week or so), so instead we could focus on elevating human effort. Recent Oban release for example had a note that all the docs a hum…

> there is a running joke among a part of the community that goes something like "0 days since last persistent workflow orchestration library announcement".

Ha, I missed this! I rarely click on any topics anymore, but I have noticed a trend of similar-sounding libraries being posted. Other than one person whose blog I already read a bit, I don't click on any of the blog posts anymore. It's not a conscious decision, I just open scan the topics, usually nothing looks interesting and a close the tab.

Re: Ending my elixir exploratory writing

#37

> discussion has collapsed I used to be extremely active on Elixir Forum. It was the main place I would interact with people online, and HN was a bit of a distant second. Now HN usage has spiked a bit and I now have a... ugh... reddit account. There is still some decent discussion there, but it's largely library announcements (many vibe coded), some blog posts (that are often about AI), and news posts. Questions abou…

there is a running joke among a part of the community that goes something like "0 days since last persistent workflow orchestration library announcement". I feel like Elixir community is a bit too nice to call out obvious slop (some folks straight out post LLM-generated blog posts every week or so), so instead we could focus on elevating human effort. Recent Oban release for example had a note that all the docs a hum…

Ha, I feel attacked: https://github.com/agoodway/pgflow

^ this one is pretty cool, pgmq does most of the work.

Re: Ending my elixir exploratory writing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

there is a running joke among a part of the community that goes something like "0 days since last persistent workflow orchestration library announcement". I feel like Elixir community is a bit too nice to call out obvious slop (some folks straight out post LLM-generated blog posts every week or so), so instead we could focus on elevating human effort. Recent Oban release for example had a note that all the docs a hum…

> there is a running joke among a part of the community that goes something like "0 days since last persistent workflow orchestration library announcement". Ha, I missed this! I rarely click on any topics anymore, but I have noticed a trend of similar-sounding libraries being posted. Other than one person whose blog I already read a bit, I don't click on any of the blog posts anymore. It's not a conscious decision, I…

I feel you! I still try to share/comment on human-written posts even if they're not fully up my alley. Pangram extensions helps a lot with that. But yeah, in general it's just crickets and a buzzing noise of tokens floating around

Re: Ending my elixir exploratory writing

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post #30

Years before gen AI took off, when I wrote internet-facing prose or code, I thought "even if nobody reads this, maybe some AI will read it some day and find it useful, so I should still make it accurate", never expecting such a day to come so soon. Now that it has, I'm overjoyed that my work has had some tiny part in training the models that are helping millions of people implement their tech ideas or even just write…

That's not what he's saying. He was doing this writing to communicate with other human beings, and that since that seems seemingly has died off in his community there isn't much point in continuing that. It's great that there are people that enjoy being a training bot for a corporate product, but some people still want to talk to other people. And if a system ever becomes an AGI, I am fairly sure it will no longer ne…

> It's great that there are people that enjoy being a training bot for a corporate product

FWIW I feel more or less the same _and_ I think this gives society a solid ground for demanding some sort of collective compensation from AI labs, just like mining or oil companies pay for natural resources https://distantprovince.substack.com/p/the-past-is-a-natural...

Re: Ending my elixir exploratory writing

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post #9

> discussion has collapsed I used to be extremely active on Elixir Forum. It was the main place I would interact with people online, and HN was a bit of a distant second. Now HN usage has spiked a bit and I now have a... ugh... reddit account. There is still some decent discussion there, but it's largely library announcements (many vibe coded), some blog posts (that are often about AI), and news posts. Questions abou…

It doesn't help that the default page changed from the form to whatever the fuck it is now that requires multiple steps to see comments.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks the new default page is absolutely horrible in terms of usability.

I've noticed less comments on posts, but this is probably also the result of more AI-assisted Elixir projects being announced, not just the change in UI/UX.

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