Gemini is getting less useful with each update. I could edit a pdf with the 3-pro model before but 3.1-pro couldn't edit the given pdf nor it could generate one for me.
Gemini 3.8 Flash and 3.8 Flash Cyber
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#32Gemini is getting less useful with each update. I could edit a pdf with the 3-pro model before but 3.1-pro couldn't edit the given pdf nor it could generate one for me.
3.5 pro doesn't exist yet?
Re: Gemini 3.8 Flash and 3.8 Flash Cyber
#33But where is Gemini 3.5 pro?
Gemini 3.5 pro is never going to be released, it was a failure.
Re: Gemini 3.8 Flash and 3.8 Flash Cyber
#34Is there any reason to even use 3.1 Pro now?
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#35Gemini is getting less useful with each update. I could edit a pdf with the 3-pro model before but 3.1-pro couldn't edit the given pdf nor it could generate one for me.
You probably mean 3.5-flash? Pro is still good for a lot of use cases, but it seems it's still officially in the "preview" phase.
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#36Currently top at https://deepswe.datacurve.ai - beating Opus 5! https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/gemini-3-8-flash shows an intelligence score of 59, the same as Opus 5 medium! Wow - for a flash model this seems to benchmark powerfully. Remains to be seen what it is like to use.
The benchmark also doesn't include speed. You almost think something has gone wrong when using it because it returns full responses so incredibly fast.
Re: Gemini 3.8 Flash and 3.8 Flash Cyber
#37model card https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49537354 (doesn't 404)
[1] For tone and instruction following, a positive percentage increase represents an improvement in the tone of the model on sensitive topics and the model’s ability to follow instructions while remaining safe compared to Gemini 3 Flash. We mark improvements in green and regressions in red.
Why bother with a column “Gemini 3.8 Flash vs. Gemini 3.7 Flash” when you’re going to disregard the label for 20% of it? Also is the “Tone” label short for “Tone and Instruction Following”?
Chartcrime, the major AI lab tradition.
Re: Gemini 3.8 Flash and 3.8 Flash Cyber
#38I see benchmarks beating sol terra and sonnet. But is actually better? Has someone used it? I don't see actually much people that use Gemini for coding.
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#39Gemini is getting less useful with each update. I could edit a pdf with the 3-pro model before but 3.1-pro couldn't edit the given pdf nor it could generate one for me.
3.5 pro doesn't exist yet?
Sorry my bad, I messed up the numbers, 3 and 3.1 pro. All of these model numbers have me confused
Re: Gemini 3.8 Flash and 3.8 Flash Cyber
#40From personal experience it feels much more capable than 3.7 Flash.