shows up in /models though and encourages you to use it over 3.7 Flash
I prefer this over reading specs: the "just show me" way
Gemini 3.8 Flash and 3.8 Flash Cyber
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Re: Gemini 3.8 Flash and 3.8 Flash Cyber
#22Looks like Google's given up on frontier models for external consumption?
Latest rumor is that 3.5 pro was struggling to be meaningfully better than flash, since iterations on flash were moving much faster than iterations on pro, likely due to model size (flash is estimated to be in the 200-400B range).
Re: Gemini 3.8 Flash and 3.8 Flash Cyber
#23Currently top at https://deepswe.datacurve.ai - beating Opus 5!
https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/gemini-3-8-flash shows an intelligence score of 59, the same as Opus 5 medium!
Wow - for a flash model this seems to benchmark powerfully. Remains to be seen what it is like to use.
Re: Gemini 3.8 Flash and 3.8 Flash Cyber
#24Seem like a great, no-compromise, upgrade over 3.7 which is already a bargain, fast, and doesn't have the brain-damaged writing style of Claude.
that's certainly what it's looking like so far. kind of mind boggling ...
Re: Gemini 3.8 Flash and 3.8 Flash Cyber
#25Wait, I didn't realize 3.7 Flash was already beating Sol on a bunch of the benchmarks. Isn't it a way smaller models?
IDK if it's smaller, but I know it's way faster. In one test I did, Flash 3.7 high was ~9.4x faster than Luna High.
But, also... Sol crushes Flash 3.7 at writing code in a codebase of any size beyond "tiny".
Flash is my go-to for prototyping, and basically anything that isn't writing production code.
Re: Gemini 3.8 Flash and 3.8 Flash Cyber
#26Wait, I didn't realize 3.7 Flash was already beating Sol on a bunch of the benchmarks. Isn't it a way smaller models?
It's pretty good if you can actively steer it , its actually really really good , the antigravity free tier and pro tiers are generous as well . I'm shocked at how fast it generates tokens.
Re: Gemini 3.8 Flash and 3.8 Flash Cyber
#27But where is Gemini 3.5 pro?
Re: Gemini 3.8 Flash and 3.8 Flash Cyber
#28Currently top at https://deepswe.datacurve.ai - beating Opus 5! https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/gemini-3-8-flash shows an intelligence score of 59, the same as Opus 5 medium! Wow - for a flash model this seems to benchmark powerfully. Remains to be seen what it is like to use.
Google - we're so back
Re: Gemini 3.8 Flash and 3.8 Flash Cyber
#29I'm trying it now for token heavy coding tasks, it's capable for many tasks but in noway compares to Claude/Sol - requires more prompts and the output isn't as good.
So just another mid-tier flash model, nothing exciting, but Antigravity has very generous quotas so it's a good workhorse model when your Claude/OpenAI subs run out.
And whilst it's a fast model, having to baby sit through and approve prompts every few seconds ends up making it slower than the Auto approve modes of Claude/ChatGPT - they definitely need an auto approve mode.
Re: Gemini 3.8 Flash and 3.8 Flash Cyber
#30Looks like Google's given up on frontier models for external consumption?
They don't want to release a frontier model that requires data sharing with the government and right now it looks like they'd have to.