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Three sites made 215,128 “best software” pages for AI. Perplexity cites them

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Re: Three sites made 215,128 “best software” pages for AI. Perplexity cites them

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Post by jeffreyrogers »

threetonesun wrote: post #19
alangibson wrote: post #11

Perplexity is about to learn that Google is an anti-spam company first, search engine second

Well, was. They did a bad job of it these last few years which allowed any AI that could crawl the web to seem amazing for search because it could pick the best posts from Reddit or whatever other forum had the best context for your question, but now we're watching the AI snake eat its own tail.

I rarely use image search, but I went to look something up recently and I was shocked at how many obviously AI generated images showed up. I couldn't even find an image of the thing I was looking for and eventually gave up. Bing has the same problem.

Re: Three sites made 215,128 “best software” pages for AI. Perplexity cites them

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Post by lo_zamoyski »

xpct wrote: post #18

If I recall correctly, there were some papers which suggested that LLMs favor LLM-generated passages over human written ones. I can consistently reproduce this by asking Claude which code snippet it prefers: the one it generated in a different chat, or one that I refactored for my own needs and find more useful. It always picks its own :) I've also experienced that both Claude and Codex routinely include generated we…

> asking Claude which code snippet it prefers: the one it generated in a different chat, or one that I refactored [...] It always picks its own

...is not the same as claiming...

> LLMs favor LLM-generated passages over human written ones

Here, you're using the same LLM to both produce and judge the resulting work. If anything, I would expect an LLM to tend to prefer its own work given that the same training is producing and judging.

Re: Three sites made 215,128 “best software” pages for AI. Perplexity cites them

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Post by marginalia_nu »

lukev wrote: post #5

Begun, the AI SEO wars have.

It does seem rather impactful.

I've seen an extremely aggressive uptick in API key requests and sales that I'm not sure where it's coming from. Like it's up 5x over the summer. Been a bit confused about this since I do basically zero traditional marketing or SEO, but I think it's AI search tools that's suggesting my services.

Re: Three sites made 215,128 “best software” pages for AI. Perplexity cites them

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Post by xpct »

jasonjmcghee wrote: post #28
xpct wrote: post #18

If I recall correctly, there were some papers which suggested that LLMs favor LLM-generated passages over human written ones. I can consistently reproduce this by asking Claude which code snippet it prefers: the one it generated in a different chat, or one that I refactored for my own needs and find more useful. It always picks its own :) I've also experienced that both Claude and Codex routinely include generated we…

If by root urls you mean domains, openai at least supports this. https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/tools-web-sear...

That is what I meant! Couldn't remember the word 'domain' while I was writing out my comment. Thank you

Re: Three sites made 215,128 “best software” pages for AI. Perplexity cites them

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Post by CapsAdmin »

I've been vary of using ai to search considering all the spam out there. I think I'd rather, perhaps naively, whitelist wikipedia, reddit, arxiv, some news sources, etc than include everything.

Is there nothing out there that does this? I'm paying for kagi and I can see that it has an api, is that maybe sufficient if configured properly?

Re: Three sites made 215,128 “best software” pages for AI. Perplexity cites them

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Post by kingkawn »

CapsAdmin wrote: post #35

I've been vary of using ai to search considering all the spam out there. I think I'd rather, perhaps naively, whitelist wikipedia, reddit, arxiv, some news sources, etc than include everything. Is there nothing out there that does this? I'm paying for kagi and I can see that it has an api, is that maybe sufficient if configured properly?

Reddit is full of ai accounts now tho

Re: Three sites made 215,128 “best software” pages for AI. Perplexity cites them

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Post by ricardobeat »

Honestly, I will just flag every post that is entirely AI slop from now on. This has to stop.

The home page for this "independent research firm" is also 100% nonsense [1]. "The record a machine reads is not the one a company writes.". Ironically this low-effort spam is exactly what this report warns about, and does not belong in HN - or anywhere else.

[1] https://trellner.com/

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