Very disappointing. I really get the sense that all AI companies and anti-privacy parasites on society.
Can I opt out of my input or output data being used for training?
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Re: Can I opt out of my input or output data being used for training?
#32Context: After careful research our organization preferred a European partner with good central privacy controls. We landed on Mistral, after being disappointed that the Pro tier was opt-in to training on prompts by default we switched up to the Team tier which provides an organization dashboard with some relevant settings. As we did that Mistral changed these options and the Team tier was now also opt-in by default…
"For contrast: Claude disables training on prompts for organizations starting from the 18 euro tier " In theory also for individuals? At least I have that toggle to deactivate that. But how would I ever know if they actually respect that?
How do you know an LLM provider does not kill puppies every time you send a prompt longer than 14 words?
Re: Can I opt out of my input or output data being used for training?
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are "opting in to sharing your prompts for training", by default in this case. My slider says: "Allow the use of your interactions with Vibe to train Mistral's AI models.", it is on by default for everyone on the Team plan, the admin can't centrally turn it off anymore, and any user can toggle it when they want to. This all changed last week. I know I'm naive but I expect that when I pay, this stuff is simply off…
> You are "opting in to sharing your prompts for training", by default in this case. The English term for that is "opt out" not "opt in." To opt is to choose. If something is on by default, you have not opted in. You were forced in, and turning it off means you must opt out . (I.e., choose to be out.) normally I wouldn't care about a mistake like this, except that opt in/out are very important concepts in software de…
as another non-native speaker, i think that while the person you're answering to didn't use the default way of expressing this in the english-speaking world, i did understand what they meant, i think they do know what opting means and i think the reasoning is this:
when they say data collection is "opt in" by default they mean that by choosing to use a product, you are opting into your data being collected (at the same time).
on the other hand, native speakers saying something is "opt out" describes the options or toggles one has available in the default case - when something is toggled "true", you (only) have the choice to toggle it of.
so english speakers talk about the controls one has to CHANGE the status quo.
Re: Can I opt out of my input or output data being used for training?
#34Most commenters here clutching their pearls as if Claude and Gemini Pro didn't do it already. In the latter you (as a paying customer) can't even store the chat history unless you agree to their 'improvement of services'.
Do you have all your accounts paid for by the enterprise or you never check the settings?
Re: Can I opt out of my input or output data being used for training?
#35Re: Can I opt out of my input or output data being used for training?
#36There are so models that beats all of Mistral models, plus you can run many of them locally. Why would anyone run Mistral?
Possibly because Mistral is a French-based company, so EU companies can cut the American umbilical cord a bit more.
EU companies can download GLM or Kimi-K3 and get way better performance, though? I don't see any case for using a Mistral model when much better open models exist.
Re: Can I opt out of my input or output data being used for training?
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
"For contrast: Claude disables training on prompts for organizations starting from the 18 euro tier " In theory also for individuals? At least I have that toggle to deactivate that. But how would I ever know if they actually respect that?
If you don’t trust the company to keep their promise, don’t use their products.
I don't trust any company with their word on anything. Luckily, privacy policies are legally binding.
Re: Can I opt out of my input or output data being used for training?
#38Context: After careful research our organization preferred a European partner with good central privacy controls. We landed on Mistral, after being disappointed that the Pro tier was opt-in to training on prompts by default we switched up to the Team tier which provides an organization dashboard with some relevant settings. As we did that Mistral changed these options and the Team tier was now also opt-in by default…
"For contrast: Claude disables training on prompts for organizations starting from the 18 euro tier " In theory also for individuals? At least I have that toggle to deactivate that. But how would I ever know if they actually respect that?
My 20 EUR Claude (individual) had the training on by default.
Re: Can I opt out of my input or output data being used for training?
#39My bet is that mistral models will suddenly start to shine.
Re: Can I opt out of my input or output data being used for training?
#40I could be mistaken, but wasn't Mistral openly championing themselves as a company and EU option that wouldn't do this/didn't do this?
Maybe they realized that they were falling behind too much? To me it seems like user-feedback on bad descisions by the AI once it's trained to a basic level is among the most important signals in tuning the model to perform better.
That's what I believe. Once you have scanned every passive source available, using the user conversations to e.g. find common paths to a solution and shortcut them would seem natural.