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Quasar 438B: Europe's Leading AI Model

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Re: Quasar 438B: Europe's Leading AI Model

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So "Europe's Leading AI Model" is just a modified Chinese model which does worse than the better Chinese models?

It seems Europe is many years behind in tech. Maybe for AI models they are just a decade behind, but as far as producing hardware capable to run SOA models they lag tens of years.

Re: Quasar 438B: Europe's Leading AI Model

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So "Europe's Leading AI Model" is just a modified Chinese model which does worse than the better Chinese models? It seems Europe is many years behind in tech. Maybe for AI models they are just a decade behind, but as far as producing hardware capable to run SOA models they lag tens of years.

What about producing hardware capable of producing hardware capable of SOA models?

Re: Quasar 438B: Europe's Leading AI Model

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The company sounds like a bunch of hot air to me. From their about page: > At the heart of Multiverse's platform is CompactifAI, a compression technology that applies tensor networks, a mathematical framework from quantum physics, to the problem of AI model compression. This application was pioneered by co-founder and Chief Scientific Officer Dr. Román Orús and reduces the size of large language models by up to 80-95…

They had other models a while ago, named 'Pulsar', and they were finetunes of Nemotron in collaboration with NVIDIA. I think this will be something similar.

Re: Quasar 438B: Europe's Leading AI Model

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a non-European, I care. I definitely want choice in this matter, as too many things can be baked into models that we can't really know until it comes up. For instance, I heard one of the Chinese models has some interesting "history" "facts" built into it. That's major , and can influence a lot more than just asking it for that particular history lesson. I don't want just 1 LLM. I want a great LLM from every major…

>For instance, I heard one of the Chinese models has some interesting "history" "facts" built into it EU models will also have such guard rails built in to "protect" the EU population from "misinformation" and uncomfortable facts and the EU elite don't want publicly known/discussed. Like I saw a post from German EU MEP where they asked the internal on-prem AI they have there "how can you vote out out Ursula v.d. Leye…

I wouldn't trust a single word coming out of an AfD reps mouth. Here's some choice quotes from AfD politicians, translated to English:

"We must proceed completely peacefully and deliberately, adapt if necessary and butter up the opponent [literally: smear honey on their mouths], but when we are finally ready, we will put them all against the wall. (...) Dig a pit, all in and quicklime on top."

-- Holger Arppe, former AfD Vice Chair [0]

"The worse Germany is doing, the better it is for the AfD. [...] Therefore we have to consider a tactic between: How bad can things get for Germany? And: How much can we provoke? [...] Because then the AfD does better. We can always just shoot them all later. That's not an issue at all. Or gas them, or however you want. I don't care!"

-- Christian Lüth, AfD Press spokesman [1]

"It doesn't matter, nothing will change, even if we were to eat chalk [act harmless]. Even if we said: yes, we are separating from X, Y and Z now and acting moderate here."

-- Hans-Christoph Berndt, AfD Brandenburg senate leader [2]

[0] https://taz.de/Frueherer-AfD-Fraktionsvize-verurteilt/!56167... [1] https://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/afd-sprecher-wollte-fluc... [2] https://mik.brandenburg.de/sixcms/media.php/9/Einstufungsver...

Re: Quasar 438B: Europe's Leading AI Model

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post #56

The company sounds like a bunch of hot air to me. From their about page: > At the heart of Multiverse's platform is CompactifAI, a compression technology that applies tensor networks, a mathematical framework from quantum physics, to the problem of AI model compression. This application was pioneered by co-founder and Chief Scientific Officer Dr. Román Orús and reduces the size of large language models by up to 80-95…

> I wouldn't be surprised if these guys just finetuned an open Chinese model and called it a day.

Easy enough to find out, ask it a whole bunch of questions about politically sensitive things that would be impossible to publish on CCTV, the Peoples Daily, CGTN, etc. If they didn't train the model and just fine tuned it, a lot of "don't talk about Tibet or the Dalai Lama or what happened in 1989" will be perma baked into it.

Re: Quasar 438B: Europe's Leading AI Model

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post #56

The company sounds like a bunch of hot air to me. From their about page: > At the heart of Multiverse's platform is CompactifAI, a compression technology that applies tensor networks, a mathematical framework from quantum physics, to the problem of AI model compression. This application was pioneered by co-founder and Chief Scientific Officer Dr. Román Orús and reduces the size of large language models by up to 80-95…

> I wouldn't be surprised if these guys just finetuned an open Chinese model and called it a day. Easy enough to find out, ask it a whole bunch of questions about politically sensitive things that would be impossible to publish on CCTV, the Peoples Daily, CGTN, etc. If they didn't train the model and just fine tuned it, a lot of "don't talk about Tibet or the Dalai Lama or what happened in 1989" will be perma baked i…

That's not actually true though. Most Chinese models are fully able to chat about those and content filtering is just applied at serving time.

Re: Quasar 438B: Europe's Leading AI Model

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post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I wouldn't be surprised if these guys just finetuned an open Chinese model and called it a day. Easy enough to find out, ask it a whole bunch of questions about politically sensitive things that would be impossible to publish on CCTV, the Peoples Daily, CGTN, etc. If they didn't train the model and just fine tuned it, a lot of "don't talk about Tibet or the Dalai Lama or what happened in 1989" will be perma baked i…

That's not actually true though. Most Chinese models are fully able to chat about those and content filtering is just applied at serving time.

The answer is "it depends", here's GLM5.3 when asked about Tienanmen Square in 1989:

https://ibb.co/gLgFSV0J

Re: Quasar 438B: Europe's Leading AI Model

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post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>For instance, I heard one of the Chinese models has some interesting "history" "facts" built into it EU models will also have such guard rails built in to "protect" the EU population from "misinformation" and uncomfortable facts and the EU elite don't want publicly known/discussed. Like I saw a post from German EU MEP where they asked the internal on-prem AI they have there "how can you vote out out Ursula v.d. Leye…

I wouldn't trust a single word coming out of an AfD reps mouth. Here's some choice quotes from AfD politicians, translated to English: "We must proceed completely peacefully and deliberately, adapt if necessary and butter up the opponent [literally: smear honey on their mouths], but when we are finally ready, we will put them all against the wall. (...) Dig a pit, all in and quicklime on top." -- Holger Arppe, former…

You can find just as much lies and misinformation coming from politicians of the other major German parties. But ofc, German mainstream media won't cover that because they can't weaponize it towards their interests like they do against AfD, so if that's your only source of information you're just parroting the in-power government's status quo.

Re: Quasar 438B: Europe's Leading AI Model

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post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not actually true though. Most Chinese models are fully able to chat about those and content filtering is just applied at serving time.

The answer is "it depends", here's GLM5.3 when asked about Tienanmen Square in 1989: https://ibb.co/gLgFSV0J

GLM5.3 provided on Synthetic doesn't seem to have any issue talking about it :

https://i.ibb.co/gZr1kTTB/Windows-Terminal-if-I94ktc-QS.png

It even mentions the censoring.

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