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You Know Who Hates AI? Insurance Claims Adjusters

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Re: You Know Who Hates AI? Insurance Claims Adjusters

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Which clueless executives are we blaming? The ones who purchase products from vendors like OpenAI or AI-powered products that run API calls through OpenAI et al., or the vendors themselves who make bombastic claims about capabilities? As an analogy, I don’t know if I fully blame my executives for buying Microsoft Teams when Microsoft Teams turns out to suck. Microsoft promised to my company’s executives that Microsof…

You should. It's their fault for picking a bad vendor. It's their fault for not finding someone with taste to solve the problem. Fundamentally its their business, pretending you can blame someone else for your ultimate accountability is stupid. Nobody is forcing you to take poison, and saying "Well Microsoft promised me it isn't poison!!!" at this point, decades into it selling poison, doesn't make much sense.

Thats a fraud and host of other charges with that poison, and I see no difference with overhyped llms.

You are not correct.

Re: You Know Who Hates AI? Insurance Claims Adjusters

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Follow-up question, [Do] You know who loves flock cameras? Insurance Claim Adjusters. They are using the cameras to catch fraud (where claimants try to lump previous damage with damage covered by the current claim.), etc.

How is that relevant? I’m sure we all hate flock here, but what does that have to do with the article?

No clue what OP's intention was but I'll note that the software on object recognition cameras typically makes use of a vision model.

Re: You Know Who Hates AI? Insurance Claims Adjusters

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Well, more because it pulverizes personal responsibility for bad decisions ("I didn't deny your claim, the computer did"). But yeah.

See OpenAI putting the blame on a “rogue agent” for their own systems hacking other companies (which is a felony!!!!). When in reality they obviously control the while loop and tool call dispatching of the agents. But they decided to train attacker models, then run thousands of instances in parallel with the goal to solve hacking problems with close to no supervision and full execution privilege…

That company is highly amoral from top to bottom (yes even innocent Joe just cashing his million + bonuses while seeing all this crap and much more from inside and happily chugging along with 'just paying off that mortgage' tunnel vision).

Except shit, amoral behavior, backstabbing, lying at all times, just to get those sweet money and power.

Re: You Know Who Hates AI? Insurance Claims Adjusters

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Ultimately this isn't "AI's fault". As the article points out, clueless executives who don't understand the capabilities and limitations of specific LLMs push the technology on workers so they can say they are "using AI to improve efficiency".

Which clueless executives are we blaming? The ones who purchase products from vendors like OpenAI or AI-powered products that run API calls through OpenAI et al., or the vendors themselves who make bombastic claims about capabilities? As an analogy, I don’t know if I fully blame my executives for buying Microsoft Teams when Microsoft Teams turns out to suck. Microsoft promised to my company’s executives that Microsof…

> We could consider them clueless for falling for that, or an alternate viewpoint is that they are victims of widespread fraud.

Pretty much what this blog post says: https://hermit-tech.com/blog/ai-mania-is-eviscerating-global...

It seems pretty bad, no doubt about it

Re: You Know Who Hates AI? Insurance Claims Adjusters

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Follow-up question, [Do] You know who loves flock cameras? Insurance Claim Adjusters. They are using the cameras to catch fraud (where claimants try to lump previous damage with damage covered by the current claim.), etc.

How is that relevant? I’m sure we all hate flock here, but what does that have to do with the article?

It adds more context about how much of a scam insurance is and how they come off as hypocrites for liking to use one form of ai for themselves (camera detection) while disliking another (customers trying to get more fair payouts)

Re: You Know Who Hates AI? Insurance Claims Adjusters

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Re: You Know Who Hates AI? Insurance Claims Adjusters

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This comment feels like an ad for SnapClaim.

A SnapClaim executive ran over my dog in his Porsche and offered me a coupon for 25% off my next SnapClaim. I ran over one of his kids which scratched my bumper and hood. Insurance offered me $1250 but SnapClaim got me over $2000. Don’t let these executives get away with anything.

Re: You Know Who Hates AI? Insurance Claims Adjusters

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should. It's their fault for picking a bad vendor. It's their fault for not finding someone with taste to solve the problem. Fundamentally its their business, pretending you can blame someone else for your ultimate accountability is stupid. Nobody is forcing you to take poison, and saying "Well Microsoft promised me it isn't poison!!!" at this point, decades into it selling poison, doesn't make much sense.

Thats a fraud and host of other charges with that poison, and I see no difference with overhyped llms. You are not correct.

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me ten billion times its still Microsoft's fault you bought the wrong thing.
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