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Re: We are rebuilding Monica

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I am not the target audience for this product, but I can’t get over the irony of building a CRM specifically to track details about people you genuinely care about

My brain is not wired to remember certain details about people. I can have a conversation with them for an hour, truly engage with them and pay attention to what they say because I care to do so, and a week later remember almost nothing about the talk. I have a Notes.app record listing my coworkers and the important things I want to remember about them. I wish I could remember all these things without writing it down…

Exactly this if I would not track it in my Calendar I would forget the birthday of my grandparents who I love dearly. It just cannot compute in the web of information that is in my brain. I need a crutch for it.

Re: We are rebuilding Monica

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It's always interesting to me when I see someone build a complete personal system around functionality that to me would just be a text file, or maybe an org-mode file.

So far that does work super well with mobile, at least not for me.

Re: We are rebuilding Monica

#83
I don’t if I will “trust” these two people/developers team for Monica anymore. They just abandon it then and there - remove features in next version like API. It’s better to have your own. I pointed Opus to fix the bugs and added API to their newer version and it was ready in few hours. The devs keep trying to do different things, like LifeOS. And this and that. Maybe they created it - but haven’t done anything worthwhile rather than spinning random things.

Re: We are rebuilding Monica

#84

After screaming into my pillow about the recent Facebook f**ery and the destruction of the individual and their relationships, I had a moment of appreciation and human-ness when I read, "Built because my memory is bad.; I created Monica because I kept forgetting details about people I genuinely cared about." That's the kinda thing we should be building and supporting together. I may start using it, even if that's a h…

I am not the target audience for this product, but I can’t get over the irony of building a CRM specifically to track details about people you genuinely care about

It may be a comforting idea to believe that our affection should require no assistance at all, and expect from all others that it should flow quite effortlessly from a caring mind. But human capacity, I have come to realize with both age, health, and genetic variations is rarely so simple a matter. When a person admits quite vulnerably that their memory falls short as the author has, yet their desire to care for their relationships remains entirely intact, there is something very moving in that alone. But to spend ten years quietly building as the author has is an act of love for people they care for are not lost to memory and forgotten in time.

Re: We are rebuilding Monica

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I initially liked using Monica, even though it was a huge pain to self host it - the installation process in particular. It felt like I was putting together a spatial ship - error after error, warning after warning. A rather frustrating experience. And after I finally managed to install it, I've used it for half a year and it felt like a lot of work to keep it updated, get used to the processes / logic behind the system etc. Furthermore, I realised that it's basically an immense liability - all my contacts and private details about myself and them in one single place.

As such, my rules for a personal CRM are as follows:

1. No server to maintain; it should be an old school piece of software that I can install on my PC/phone etc.

2. I like the idea of being able to update it from different locations and using different devices; the only service acceptable here is for the makers to either offer a paid-for sync service or a method for users to sync the data between devices themselves. Not an essential service to me though.

3. No unencrypted data should be allowed, regardless of whether it stays local or it's synced across devices, or whether it's live or a backup file.

4. Backup, import, and any data handling should be easy as a breeze. Should I open my backup / db export done with version 1.0 with a fresh installation v9999 it should work flawlessly, no errors, no hiccups, no file corruption, no issues whatsoever. That data is the one reason for the software to exist and the only valuable entity in the whole scheme; if it becomes unusable, it's beyond frustrating and not a good solution to even consider.

5. No updates should be forced, ever. If my OS supports version 0.5 until year 3500, the CRM should continue work as expected. Security updates should be entirely separate than feature / bugs etc. I accept security updates within reason, in many cases I would much rather risk my PC to be hacked and data to fall in the wrong hands, than corrupt it or lose it due to some feature update I never requested or needed.

Re: We are rebuilding Monica

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post #15

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Written before LLMs made Big Rewrites an absolute doddle.

As an American English speaker, I'm going to assume "doddle" is a synonym for quagmire.

A doddle is the same as a piece of cake, or a walk in the park; something that is simple & easy.

Re: We are rebuilding Monica

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What’s cynical about this? Everybody is modernizing their codebases for agentic development.

I’m not. I’m optimizing my code for artisanal development.

It's okay to remain on the brink of starvation as long as you're doing what you love! Is that gonna be a new Etsy category?

Re: We are rebuilding Monica

#88

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My brain is not wired to remember certain details about people. I can have a conversation with them for an hour, truly engage with them and pay attention to what they say because I care to do so, and a week later remember almost nothing about the talk. I have a Notes.app record listing my coworkers and the important things I want to remember about them. I wish I could remember all these things without writing it down…

Exactly this if I would not track it in my Calendar I would forget the birthday of my grandparents who I love dearly. It just cannot compute in the web of information that is in my brain. I need a crutch for it.

I feel seen. Yes. It’s the same fundamental reason to-do apps exist. “Do you really need an app to remember to pay the rent on the first of the month?” “Demonstrably yes.”

And there are events less personably important to me that matter to others, like “tell your son happy anniversary!” I barely know their kid, but it makes the person hearing it happy that someone thought of a nice happening in their life. Now their day is slightly brighter. Darned if I’d ever remember that without something to nudge me.

Re: We are rebuilding Monica

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post #46

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Your theory is that Facebook not only had no impact on that but could have done nothing to improve things? That seems implausible to me. I think at best you could claim that cause and effect are quite tangled here.

I wouldn't say no impact, but a trailing impact. They understood the cultural changes demanding new ways for people to status signal and maintain connections with friends & family. That's what I mean about reversing cause and effect. There are larger causes (see my other comment below) that Facebook was innovative to take advantage of.

I thoroughly disagree. Did Facebook take advantage of existing issues? Yes. Did they magnify those issues while creating new ones? Absolutely yes.

Re: We are rebuilding Monica

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I am not the target audience for this product, but I can’t get over the irony of building a CRM specifically to track details about people you genuinely care about

I use Obsidian as my personal CRM, and I get this a lot. It feels like people put more value on memorizing facts than writing them down, as if it’s somehow more noble to remember something about someone, but if you write it down to not forget it, it’s suddenly not as valuable a gesture. I never understood that. I had a problem (bad memory), I cared enough to find, and create a solution, and consistently use and maint…

Interestingly, I took a different route: the problem was not quality of my memory, but all the overblown expectations I've put towards myself remembering all that stuff.

Turns out most people are not even trying to juggle all these facts. Interestingly, just removing this pressure helped to remember more about the people I care about.

Not saying this will work for you (everyone is different), just sharing my 2c.

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