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The ChatGPT/Codex app bundles a full copy of LibreOffice

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Re: The ChatGPT/Codex app bundles a full copy of LibreOffice

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>How much money have you contributed back to this seemingly indispensable project? Perhaps it's time for you to become familiar with the terms of the Mozilla Public License, under which Libre Office is released. There is no requirement for monetary compensation.

No requirement doesn't mean "don't be a mensch"

There is also no expectation to bash people who do not want to donate anything.

Re: The ChatGPT/Codex app bundles a full copy of LibreOffice

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HOW DOES IT WORK FOR YOU PEOPLE?! Istg on windows, I can't get codex app, new chatgpt or chatgpt classic to work without hanging on even a moderately sized chat. I tried all of the different tricks people recommended but that shit just crawls. It was stable at some point, classic that is, but then it started being a laggy mess. I've uninstalled new chatgpt/codex app. I can't access phone chats on it, I can't use the…

Windows has never felt more archaic than now. I can't imagine trying to do work on a Windows machine in the age of LLMs. If there is anything that LLMs are rock solid at these days, it's unix terminal usage.

They're also great at powershell, you just need to tell it to do so. sh is neat but it's 55 years old, there are newer and better shell environment concepts out there and the robots can handle them well too, try it some time!

Re: The ChatGPT/Codex app bundles a full copy of LibreOffice

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The new app is an unbelievable mess. Settings are senselessly organized, too. The whole thing has this aesthetic slickness and then underneath it's like the people who make it have never even used it. It's not surprising that it's pulled in absolutely massive dependencies, although I'm not sure it's the wrong call on some operating systems. LibreOffice is pretty tried and true.

HOW DOES IT WORK FOR YOU PEOPLE?! Istg on windows, I can't get codex app, new chatgpt or chatgpt classic to work without hanging on even a moderately sized chat. I tried all of the different tricks people recommended but that shit just crawls. It was stable at some point, classic that is, but then it started being a laggy mess. I've uninstalled new chatgpt/codex app. I can't access phone chats on it, I can't use the…

One thing I've found - these things are pretty good at troubleshooting desktop problems. If the codex app is running slow, I'll note that it shouldn't be, and also you might get more traction than you'd expect asking the codex app why it's slow.

Re: The ChatGPT/Codex app bundles a full copy of LibreOffice

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post #86

Is that what it is using to render and manipulate MS Office documents? That'd explain the poor rendering of some of my files. Bundling all of LibreOffice seems like a pretty huge dependency.

What's ironic about this is, afaik there's no programmatic way to get a screenshot of a PowerPoint on windows other than opening up PowerPoint and screenshotting it. I only discovered this when I first tried out Anthropics official PowerPoint skill when it came out this winter. If anything happens from this, I hope it forces Microsoft to address some of its long standing hostile to power users issues so they can stay…

I have made puppt cli for this, it includes high dpi rendering per-slide/all-slides and in place editing

https://github.com/artpar/puppt

it allows your llms to see the ppt files structurally apart from just rendering it

Re: The ChatGPT/Codex app bundles a full copy of LibreOffice

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post #71

There is a serious threat to Microsoft here, if everyone starts using AI for generating and updating Office docs. At some point Office will become just a viewer.

If you don't have to edit files or you are not supposed to, they should send you a PDF, unless it's an Excel. Excel is a much better viewer for itself because of many reasons (explore the formula, sort, filter) including that usually its sheets are not built to fit a particular page format.

Re: The ChatGPT/Codex app bundles a full copy of LibreOffice

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I wonder if this says anything about the capabilities of AI. If it's better to bundle an entire headless office suite than ask your AI to build support for relatively well documented formats (or even to extract the file support parts it needs from Libra Office), that seems to suggest AI isn't as good as human devs just yet.

Re: The ChatGPT/Codex app bundles a full copy of LibreOffice

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I wonder if this says anything about the capabilities of AI. If it's better to bundle an entire headless office suite than ask your AI to build support for relatively well documented formats (or even to extract the file support parts it needs from Libra Office), that seems to suggest AI isn't as good as human devs just yet.

Or, it's dumb as hell to have an AI re-write Word every time it wants to output or present a document.

But let's focus on how this validates the belief that "AI bad."

Re: The ChatGPT/Codex app bundles a full copy of LibreOffice

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I wonder if this says anything about the capabilities of AI. If it's better to bundle an entire headless office suite than ask your AI to build support for relatively well documented formats (or even to extract the file support parts it needs from Libra Office), that seems to suggest AI isn't as good as human devs just yet.

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Re: The ChatGPT/Codex app bundles a full copy of LibreOffice

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I would agree a full rewrite of word which is very complex and take quite a bit of time. It would be impressive of AI to make a 80% rewrite, though I fully doubt it would cover the 100% rewrite (disregarding long term support as well). Why do you think it’s impossible for humans to rewrite word, especially even humans made it in the first place?

I think it's not possible with humans in a relatively SHORT amount of time (let's say 1 year).

I’m not sure about you but I would not want to adopt and ship an overnight “word” written in rust
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