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Re: Improving our alignment and security efforts

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Post by akersten »

tolugenius wrote: post #2

> To be clear about where we stand: we believe the world would benefit if the industry adopted a lawful, verifiable, effective mechanism for coordinated pacing as soon as possible. Can someone explain what coordinated pacing is? I think it's referring to model release but I genuinely have no idea what the authors were trying to say here.

> Can someone explain what coordinated pacing is?

My charitable read is a legal cartel that allows the small club to switch to Marathon instead of Sprint mode, and drip feed us frontier models at inflated prices, while preventing open source and overseas labs from releasing models because they're unsafe (for the Blessèd Fews' profits).

My uncharitable read is somehow even less constructive..

Re: Improving our alignment and security efforts

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Post by nradov »

tolugenius wrote: post #2

> To be clear about where we stand: we believe the world would benefit if the industry adopted a lawful, verifiable, effective mechanism for coordinated pacing as soon as possible. Can someone explain what coordinated pacing is? I think it's referring to model release but I genuinely have no idea what the authors were trying to say here.

They don't want any of their competitors to be able to leap ahead. Good luck getting the Chinese to agree.

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Post by nozzlegear »

tolugenius wrote: post #2

> To be clear about where we stand: we believe the world would benefit if the industry adopted a lawful, verifiable, effective mechanism for coordinated pacing as soon as possible. Can someone explain what coordinated pacing is? I think it's referring to model release but I genuinely have no idea what the authors were trying to say here.

> Can someone explain what coordinated pacing is?

A fancy term for regulatory capture. You're not in the coordinated pacing cartel? Sorry bub, your model is illegal.

Edit: Cartel beneficiaries didn't like this one lol

Re: Improving our alignment and security efforts

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Post by skybrian »

futuraperdita wrote: post #3

> we believe the world would benefit if the industry adopted a lawful, verifiable, effective mechanism for coordinated pacing as soon as possible. So, a cartel? After watching Ant's narratives, I'm not inclined to provide them with charitable readings under the guise of safety and alignment.

Yes, a cartel is a failure mode to be wary of, but it's quite tedious to call an attempt to negotiate an international agreement a cartel. Global agreements are necessary to solve global problems, and many people believe that "AI is moving too fast" is a global problem.

Also, all they've really said is that they think it would be a good idea. That's a long way from an actual agreement.

Re: Improving our alignment and security efforts

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Post by hosel »

It’s always interesting to me the sentiment here surrounding AI risk. As if it’s all a joke, or just a way to stifle competition. I think it’s become more apparent that this technology is dangerous and maybe catastrophically so. Getting your queries routed to a worse model sucks.. but bio hazards are real. It’s hard to patch biology, vaccines take time. Let alone the many other reasons for P(doom).. like the fact that our current systems don’t seem very aligned to me and we are rapidly handing off our thinking to them.

Re: Improving our alignment and security efforts

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Post by [deleted] »

nozzlegear wrote: post #15
tolugenius wrote: post #2

> To be clear about where we stand: we believe the world would benefit if the industry adopted a lawful, verifiable, effective mechanism for coordinated pacing as soon as possible. Can someone explain what coordinated pacing is? I think it's referring to model release but I genuinely have no idea what the authors were trying to say here.

> Can someone explain what coordinated pacing is? A fancy term for regulatory capture. You're not in the coordinated pacing cartel? Sorry bub, your model is illegal. Edit: Cartel beneficiaries didn't like this one lol

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Re: Improving our alignment and security efforts

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Post by reasonableklout »

nradov wrote: post #13
tolugenius wrote: post #2

> To be clear about where we stand: we believe the world would benefit if the industry adopted a lawful, verifiable, effective mechanism for coordinated pacing as soon as possible. Can someone explain what coordinated pacing is? I think it's referring to model release but I genuinely have no idea what the authors were trying to say here.

They don't want any of their competitors to be able to leap ahead. Good luck getting the Chinese to agree.

The Trump admin will be meeting with China on September 24 and are expected to discuss global AI risks: https://www.reuters.com/world/china/us-china-hold-ai-talks-s...
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