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Re: GPU World

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Post by soulofmischief »

zamadatix wrote: post #221
chrismorgan wrote: post #149

This website has the distinction of being the first basically-just-content website I have ever encountered to break when web fonts are blocked (or otherwise fail to load). Other than the weird 5×5 colourful tile image thing near the top, all the content is in the document , but they go out of their way to break it in various baffling ways: ① if JS is disabled, it hides all the content behind a “Please enable JavaScri…

100k prize announcement for a competition right up a HN writer's alley and the top discussion on it is how the announcement page doesn't load correctly on a browser with half the features disabled. We are truly a special group :D.

We should not accept defeat when it comes to accessibility, graceful degradation and adherence to standards.

Re: GPU World

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Post by rbanffy »

pixl97 wrote: post #269
rbanffy wrote: post #214

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This is kind of why we need more Star Trek. Not that I don’t enjoy others, but I prefer space communism to almost any other possible future, especially the ones Peter Thiel has reserved for us.

Read more Star Trek then, the Peter Thiel world came first and the survivors made the Star Trek world.

And there was a nuclear war as well. I know that, and I’m happy it’s not often we explore that in detail or treat the “dark age of Star Trek” as something that could be normalised. It’s always portrayed as a barbaric time humanity escaped from through by growing up.

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Post by ipsod »

HarlequinHair wrote: post #278
ipsod wrote: post #271

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Nobody convinced me AI was useful. At this point, nobody could convince me it wasn't - it's like going from whittling stuff out of wood to having a kitted-out fully-manned machine shop. It's clear from your words you lack experience and skill in this area - you've only got opinions.

My "only" experience happen to be coding 5 days a week with agentic AI, plus reviews. Only because I do not share your point of view it doesn't mean I lack experience or skills. You are pretty fast at jumping at conclusions.

> You are pretty fast at jumping at conclusions.

Yeah, because I can see some of my own thoughts and experience from a long time ago in your words, and my experience tells me loud and clear that they're outdated and wrong.

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Post by calmoo »

jedberg wrote: post #273
calmoo wrote: post #228

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I’ve never actually seen someone give an example of what they say pangram get wrong, so please go ahead and share.

You can read it here: https://gist.github.com/jedberg/e24124e577c0da1c8445c22798eb... I posted here on HN but it got removed.

I'll take your word that it's human written, but reading that gist, it absolutely reads like Claudeslop / GPT slop, it doesn't surprise me in the slightest that Pangram flagged it as AI when it reads identically to LLM output - this feels like a very acceptable edge case to me (assuming you are telling the truth).

Are you absolutely sure you wrote this by hand? If so it's kind of remarkable how close to an LLM you write like.

Re: GPU World

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Post by jedberg »

calmoo wrote: post #284
jedberg wrote: post #273

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You can read it here: https://gist.github.com/jedberg/e24124e577c0da1c8445c22798eb... I posted here on HN but it got removed.

I'll take your word that it's human written, but reading that gist, it absolutely reads like Claudeslop / GPT slop, it doesn't surprise me in the slightest that Pangram flagged it as AI when it reads identically to LLM output - this feels like a very acceptable edge case to me (assuming you are telling the truth). Are you absolutely sure you wrote this by hand? If so it's kind of remarkable how close to an LLM you wr…

It’s important to remember that LLMs were trained on well written human text. People who write well are going to sound like an LLM. Especially if it’s a marketing message for a website.

I’ve been accused of being an LLM multiple times here on HN too. I know you have no way to know for sure other than trusting that I’m not using an LLM to write. But it’s pretty frustrating that people jump right to LLM accusations.

Re: GPU World

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Post by calmoo »

jedberg wrote: post #286
calmoo wrote: post #284

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll take your word that it's human written, but reading that gist, it absolutely reads like Claudeslop / GPT slop, it doesn't surprise me in the slightest that Pangram flagged it as AI when it reads identically to LLM output - this feels like a very acceptable edge case to me (assuming you are telling the truth). Are you absolutely sure you wrote this by hand? If so it's kind of remarkable how close to an LLM you wr…

It’s important to remember that LLMs were trained on well written human text. People who write well are going to sound like an LLM. Especially if it’s a marketing message for a website. I’ve been accused of being an LLM multiple times here on HN too. I know you have no way to know for sure other than trusting that I’m not using an LLM to write. But it’s pretty frustrating that people jump right to LLM accusations.

I’ll be honest, i’ve never read text that is human written that reads as close to an LLM as your sample sounds.

I think discounting Pangram’s accuracy based on that sample isn’t very reasonable. Really nobody writes like that other than LLMs!

Re: GPU World

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Post by ipsod »

HarlequinHair wrote: post #278
ipsod wrote: post #271

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody convinced me AI was useful. At this point, nobody could convince me it wasn't - it's like going from whittling stuff out of wood to having a kitted-out fully-manned machine shop. It's clear from your words you lack experience and skill in this area - you've only got opinions.

My "only" experience happen to be coding 5 days a week with agentic AI, plus reviews. Only because I do not share your point of view it doesn't mean I lack experience or skills. You are pretty fast at jumping at conclusions.

I guess we might actually have similar feelings, except, you say "only speed", and "only economics". Only time and only money. As if those aren't two of the most valuable currencies on earth.

Re: GPU World

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Post by jedberg »

calmoo wrote: post #287
jedberg wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s important to remember that LLMs were trained on well written human text. People who write well are going to sound like an LLM. Especially if it’s a marketing message for a website. I’ve been accused of being an LLM multiple times here on HN too. I know you have no way to know for sure other than trusting that I’m not using an LLM to write. But it’s pretty frustrating that people jump right to LLM accusations.

I’ll be honest, i’ve never read text that is human written that reads as close to an LLM as your sample sounds. I think discounting Pangram’s accuracy based on that sample isn’t very reasonable. Really nobody writes like that other than LLMs!

Here is another example: https://www.reddit.com/r/ExperiencedDevs/comments/1pyjkuf/i_...

Today Pangram says it is 100% human, which is correct. But yet I got multiple DMs when I posted it 8 months ago saying "stop posting AI slop!" in response to that comment. At the time, Pangram marked it as 50% AI.

So to Pangram's credit, they got better.

Re: GPU World

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Post by ekelsen »

jedberg wrote: post #286
calmoo wrote: post #284

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll take your word that it's human written, but reading that gist, it absolutely reads like Claudeslop / GPT slop, it doesn't surprise me in the slightest that Pangram flagged it as AI when it reads identically to LLM output - this feels like a very acceptable edge case to me (assuming you are telling the truth). Are you absolutely sure you wrote this by hand? If so it's kind of remarkable how close to an LLM you wr…

It’s important to remember that LLMs were trained on well written human text. People who write well are going to sound like an LLM. Especially if it’s a marketing message for a website. I’ve been accused of being an LLM multiple times here on HN too. I know you have no way to know for sure other than trusting that I’m not using an LLM to write. But it’s pretty frustrating that people jump right to LLM accusations.

Do you have any published dateable text from pre 2023? I'm super curious if you always wrote like this, because it is exactly in the style of AI slop.

People say it's in the training data, but I haven't seen any good examples of clearly dated pre 2023 text that sounds like this.

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