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Introducing Ad Blocker for Firefox on iOS

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Re: Introducing Ad Blocker for Firefox on iOS

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Post by makeitdouble »

yubblegum wrote: post #90
metalliqaz wrote: post #68

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has any browser ever made that work? Opera has to be the most popular by a mile and even they couldn't keep that business model going

What exactly is the problem? I understand a browser is a complex program but is the claim it is impossible to build a browser without continual dependence on advertising toxic dollars?

> a browser is a complex program

A browser in the class of Firefox or Chrome is for all intents and purposes a full OS constantly exposed to the world.

I understand open source OS development to be sustainable thanks to the the effort put into the server farms. That doesn't work for client side software, with the additional hurdle of needing to be better than the ad funded browser.

Re: Introducing Ad Blocker for Firefox on iOS

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Post by shric »

schubidubiduba wrote: post #97
johanyc wrote: post #81

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People just expect browsers to be free. And there's no way that can be more than Google money.

That's because browsers should be free. They are infrastructure, just like bridges. And nobody wants a bridge troll sitting on the single bridge crossing the internet river, demanding money from everyone.

Bridges are not free

Re: Introducing Ad Blocker for Firefox on iOS

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Post by bitpush »

seanyeh wrote: post #55
LeoPanthera wrote: post #28

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I'm regularly surprised that people are willing to block YouTube ads. I know that Google gets that advertising money too, but you're also blocking revenue that the channel owner would otherwise get. I suppose it might depend what you're watching, but most YouTubers aren't big business, they're just individuals. YouTube Premium is one of the few subscriptions I am completely happy to pay.

Many people are not aware that for smaller creators, Google forces ads on their videos (without consent) and takes all the revenue

Isnt that part of the deal of uploading to YouTube? YouTube promises distribution and in return they show ads to make up for lost {storage,bandwidth} etc.

I'm surprised that YouTube doesnt ask $100 per year and then also show ads. Like App Store (which requires "developer fee" for doing far less)

Re: Introducing Ad Blocker for Firefox on iOS

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Post by flyingshelf »

skarz wrote: post #51
flyingshelf wrote: post #48

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Why not use YouTube in Safari then? Haven't seen ads in years. Plenty of options to block them already.

Does YouTube in Safari play in background/with the screen off?

I use yPlayer for that, plus SponsorBlock

Re: Introducing Ad Blocker for Firefox on iOS

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Post by dogmatism »

temp0826 wrote: post #20
WD-42 wrote: post #3

It's been days (weeks?) and I'm still waiting for the option to appear for me. These "experiments" are super annoying when you are on what I'm assuming is the long tail of a rollout but the marketing/blog posts speak of the feature like it's already launched. If there's someone at Mozilla reading this: turn it on already! I want to get off Orion, it's so buggy, but the internet is unusable without an ad blocker.

I was under the impression that firefox could already use the Safari "content blockers" (as it uses webkit) like Firefox Focus and uBO Lite, but I'm not seeing that option actually. Been using Orion for a while now so not sure if that changed or I'm just misremembering it.

You are correct. I’ve been using firefox focus as Safari content blocker to block ads on ios Firefox for years. Works well

Re: Introducing Ad Blocker for Firefox on iOS

#109

Post by pibaker »

schubidubiduba wrote: post #97
johanyc wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People just expect browsers to be free. And there's no way that can be more than Google money.

That's because browsers should be free. They are infrastructure, just like bridges. And nobody wants a bridge troll sitting on the single bridge crossing the internet river, demanding money from everyone.

You pay for bridges with tax. Tax funded browser sounds good in theory, but I don't trust the people managing my tax money to run a tech project like Firefox. Most likely it gets handed to the lowest private sector bidder, with the stipulation that any privacy preserving — sorry, I meant criminal hiding — features be removed.

Re: Introducing Ad Blocker for Firefox on iOS

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Post by brynjolf »

Melatonic wrote: post #31
WD-42 wrote: post #3

It's been days (weeks?) and I'm still waiting for the option to appear for me. These "experiments" are super annoying when you are on what I'm assuming is the long tail of a rollout but the marketing/blog posts speak of the feature like it's already launched. If there's someone at Mozilla reading this: turn it on already! I want to get off Orion, it's so buggy, but the internet is unusable without an ad blocker.

Is it that buggy ? Orion works pretty well for me. Where you have you ran into bugs ?

It doesn’t even remember what tabs are open so you can’t reopen them if you close them by accident. Orion is a disaster of an app.
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