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The ChatGPT/Codex app bundles a full copy of LibreOffice

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Re: The ChatGPT/Codex app bundles a full copy of LibreOffice

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Computer use is slow and can take control of the application focus. I’ll be doing things while Claude runs in the background. Suddenly it decides to open the app and try to do something + screenshot it.

I don't know how many times I've had to yell at codex or claude to use/implement headless versions of whatever it's doing at the time, interrupts me trying to multitask and play Battlefield or Factorio while they work :P

don't try Dyson sphere project (/s, its acrually really great), but maybe try x4 foundations, I'm contemplating how I might have my agent help manage my empire

Re: The ChatGPT/Codex app bundles a full copy of LibreOffice

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The new app is an unbelievable mess. Settings are senselessly organized, too. The whole thing has this aesthetic slickness and then underneath it's like the people who make it have never even used it. It's not surprising that it's pulled in absolutely massive dependencies, although I'm not sure it's the wrong call on some operating systems. LibreOffice is pretty tried and true.

HOW DOES IT WORK FOR YOU PEOPLE?! Istg on windows, I can't get codex app, new chatgpt or chatgpt classic to work without hanging on even a moderately sized chat. I tried all of the different tricks people recommended but that shit just crawls. It was stable at some point, classic that is, but then it started being a laggy mess. I've uninstalled new chatgpt/codex app. I can't access phone chats on it, I can't use the…

Mac Neo can be had for $600 now, and it runs Codex incredibly well!

But even on the Windows machine, if you Tailscale into a free tier VM for the workloads, you'd probably have a much better time.

Just leave Codex itself on your machine, if you set up computer use it will happily set up all of this for you while you have lunch.

Re: The ChatGPT/Codex app bundles a full copy of LibreOffice

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post #86

Is that what it is using to render and manipulate MS Office documents? That'd explain the poor rendering of some of my files. Bundling all of LibreOffice seems like a pretty huge dependency.

What's ironic about this is, afaik there's no programmatic way to get a screenshot of a PowerPoint on windows other than opening up PowerPoint and screenshotting it. I only discovered this when I first tried out Anthropics official PowerPoint skill when it came out this winter. If anything happens from this, I hope it forces Microsoft to address some of its long standing hostile to power users issues so they can stay…

This can absolutely be done programmatically. I just added the ability to do that using PowerPoint for Windows yesterday in my uv/python tool `markdown-pptx`. Codex added the functionality in less than 5 minutes.

https://github.com/pseudosavant/markdown-pptx/

Re: The ChatGPT/Codex app bundles a full copy of LibreOffice

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The new app is an unbelievable mess. Settings are senselessly organized, too. The whole thing has this aesthetic slickness and then underneath it's like the people who make it have never even used it. It's not surprising that it's pulled in absolutely massive dependencies, although I'm not sure it's the wrong call on some operating systems. LibreOffice is pretty tried and true.

Personally, I like the 3-pane organization (sidebar, chat, browser). I turned ChatGPT into my bookkeeper and social post writing/kanban space, and it works well for these script+browser workflows on desktop. However, all of this is confusing: - the ChatGPT/Codex split on desktop - Chat/Work split on mobile - how you remotely access each chat from your phone (some of my most valuable chats are buried in Remote) - whic…

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Re: The ChatGPT/Codex app bundles a full copy of LibreOffice

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The new app is an unbelievable mess. Settings are senselessly organized, too. The whole thing has this aesthetic slickness and then underneath it's like the people who make it have never even used it. It's not surprising that it's pulled in absolutely massive dependencies, although I'm not sure it's the wrong call on some operating systems. LibreOffice is pretty tried and true.

And when you go to their forums it says "This forum is not for discussing the ChatGPT App..."

..like excuse me? Where the fuck else would we post feedback about it?

Re: The ChatGPT/Codex app bundles a full copy of LibreOffice

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post #54
post #47

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But in case they succeed the return on image will be astonishing.

Can you expand upon this?

A full implementation/rewrite of something like word, which is pretty complex and the quantity of edge cases is insane, in a relatively short amount of time, months, is very hard.

If they succeed with AI it will be huge: it's basically not possible to do it today with humans, no matter how many people you put on the job.

Re: The ChatGPT/Codex app bundles a full copy of LibreOffice

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never installed the ChatGPT app on my Mac until today. I ran the app, signed in, and I see the same. % ls ~/.cache/codex-runtimes/codex-primary-runtime/dependencies/native/libreoffice-headless libreoffice manifest.json

Notably: this did not exist after I installed the app, it existed after I ran the app and there was the long startup screen. Presumably, and I'm not sure I'm interested enough to redo it all and find out, that long startup screen involves the default skills plugins setting up their environment and one of those pulls it as a general app requirement. I also saw this present after first run on macOS but not Windows.

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Re: The ChatGPT/Codex app bundles a full copy of LibreOffice

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Now someone please use ChatGPT/Codex or Claude Code to rewrite the entire LibreOffice source into a single Rust binary already! Just like Jarred Sumner did for Bun [1] or Carmine Paolino did for Fastpotify [2] - granted there are some rough edges for sure, but the slim diet trimmed down and performance gains were wrothy.

[1] https://bun.com/blog/bun-in-rust [2] https://fastpotify.rocks/

Re: The ChatGPT/Codex app bundles a full copy of LibreOffice

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spinning up an entire copy of libreoffice sounds super heavy?, if someone here is actually using chatgpt to edit docx documents then they can feel free to use us. vespper.com

You want something heavier? They were trashing people's SSDs a few months ago. IDK if it's been resolved, yet. https://x.com/bdsqlsz/status/2067964486615810369

DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN

Re: The ChatGPT/Codex app bundles a full copy of LibreOffice

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post #107
post #71

There is a serious threat to Microsoft here, if everyone starts using AI for generating and updating Office docs. At some point Office will become just a viewer.

I have not created or read any Word document for a very long time. I only create PowerPoint presentations a few times a year for work, which could be easily replaced with PowerPoint online or Google Slides or even just some markdown files. But I have a license for the entire office 365 including Copilot premium. Guess why?

For Excel?
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