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Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

#91

Post by Hammershaft »

dyauspitr wrote: post #30
Nail2680 wrote: post #26

Firefox is the best of a bunch of bad options, but isn't above critique. It does suck when they do anticonsumer stuff and shove weird stuff like pocket in, but you can't leave which makes it similar to the democratic party where you can't really do anything, but they keep making really poor decisions.

Pocket was awesome. I am sad it’s gone and even though I found replacements I just don’t use them as much as pocket.

I've found Raindrop to be a better stand in, but I jumped ship from Pocket a long time ago.

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

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Post by 51Cards »

happytoexplain wrote: post #38
hx8 wrote: post #6

I am under the impression that Firefox is the only web browser which has access to quality ad blocker. Am I incorrect in this? How is this not enough of a selling point for everyone to switch to it?

Only? No. Best? Yes, it's not even close. I got the Chrome extension that adds the "Open in Firefox" option to the hyperlink right-click menu. That's how I view all YouTube videos. I'd switch completely to Firefox except for all my data being on Google. It's clear that eventually I will switch to Firefox completely. Google is pure evil.

I don't understand, all my data sits on Google too but I never use Chrome for anything? What issues are you having?

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

#93

Post by [deleted] »

lioeters wrote: post #45
Nail2680 wrote: post #26

Firefox is the best of a bunch of bad options, but isn't above critique. It does suck when they do anticonsumer stuff and shove weird stuff like pocket in, but you can't leave which makes it similar to the democratic party where you can't really do anything, but they keep making really poor decisions.

The similarity goes deeper since they're funded by the very thing they claim to oppose.

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Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

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Post by christophilus »

hx8 wrote: post #6

I am under the impression that Firefox is the only web browser which has access to quality ad blocker. Am I incorrect in this? How is this not enough of a selling point for everyone to switch to it?

I’m happy with Brave’s ad blocker. That said, I use Firefox on my desktop machines. It’s a great browser.

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

#95

Post by bigyabai »

PKop wrote: post #88
bigyabai wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> pay a small fee for Brave Origin "Hey, we recognize that normal Brave is exploitative and user-hostile by default. We'll fix it if you pay us $59.99 in mutual acknowledgement that you're a chump who can't install UBO." I'm glad (and unsurprised) that Brave's vision for the web never hit the big leagues.

It's not their "vision for the web" it's just an attempt at funding development of the browser given they aren't an ad-network behemoth like Google. Like Kagi charging for their search engine, a company charging money directly for the product is a good idea all things considered. How do you expect them to pay their developers?

> How do you expect them to pay their developers?

Ethically, for one. I'll be fucked if you expect me to "donate" to a browser that thinks my friends and family deserve a lower-quality browser experience.

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

#96

Post by flir »

autoexec wrote: post #85
nubinetwork wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I hope people here never stop bitching about Firefox. Its getting harder and harder, at some point they'll deprecate their last sane ESR, and we'll all get stuck with all their junk.

There are forks which will keep the sanity alive, but I worry about how long Firefox will survive if everyone moves to them, and I have doubts about how well those forks will be maintained after Firefox is gone.

On the bright side, there will finally be a compelling reason to move to an alternative protocol like Gemini.

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

#98

Post by wccrawford »

theamk wrote: post #3

I am using firefox, but it is pretty hard to keep using it. I don't want the whole world to converge on one browser engine, but I also want things to work, and Firefox does not make it easy. Firefox on my laptop has a propensity for eating lots of RAM, and constant CPU usage, even if nothing is going on. Task manager is useless. Profiler just shows "GC collecting". Mobile firefox is OK, it simply feels like it's desi…

I have exactly the same problem. Firefox uses far too much RAM. I ended up going back to Chrome over it, even though I prefer Firefox otherwise.

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

#99

Post by throwlifeaway »

Part of the blame for what's wrong with the web right now is on web developers:

- We "need" firefox or else everything's just chrome

- Forks of chrome don't count as different browsers because they all use the same engine

- Using the same engine makes you basically just chrome because you can't diverge from upstream

- You can't diverge from upstream because it moves too fast and you need to keep merging with it

- You need to keep merging with upstream because upstream is implementing new web platform features

- You need those web platform features because if you don't add them then websites will stop working in your fork

- Websites will stop working in your fork because web developers don't support older browser versions

- Web developers don't support older browser versions because... they don't care?

If web developers had a culture of supporting, say, 10 years of previous browser versions, then chromium would lose a lot of the power it has to drag the forks (and firefox) behind it. I don't really see this happening without some sort of major culture shift, though. Maybe if we had some versioned web standard that lagged behind the "real" ones so sites could say "StableWeb 2.0 Compatible!" or something.

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

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Post by xgulfie »

nickthegreek wrote: post #97
xgulfie wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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that’s a bold statement, and my googling has not returned results that verify this claim. can you provide any context?

Here's a fun example https://archive.is/ZtQpj

Another funny moment from this guy https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/6814#issuecommen...

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