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Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

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I am Italian, and we get quite pissed when the government issues executive orders (the head of state can't do it), although it happens relatively often. I live in France, and when the president resorted to using them it felt like he was threatening democracy. The US mechanism seems the strongest of the three, and people have considered this a normal thing in a democracy long enough for this to happen.

Executive Orders really aren't that powerful. They can only command the executive branch to do something and are not legislature at all. Trump is certainly proving you can get pretty creative with enforcement to enact terror though, I'd agree to that.

This also creates these weird situations where the courts (or the Supreme Court, at least) says "Well the executive order is just an order, and federal agencies will actually have to implement it, and until we see the specific implementation, gosh, we can't evaluate whether the order is to do an illegal thing, even though it's pretty clear that illegal things will be necessary to implement the order. Maybe they'll find a legal way to do it, who knows? We certainly don't!"

Clown court.

Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

#112
post #24

Canada should change the name of the country below them to “Bottom Canada” Honestly can’t believe there’s a few million very smart people in America who have to put up with this. Bridges for Americans worldwide are being burned to the ground and there’s no sign of a new enlightened political age arriving on any horizon. Canadians also don’t seem to understand that this situation is only going to get worse and America…

>situation is only going to get worse

It will likely improve when the Russian asset departs, maybe even after the mid terms.

Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

#113
post #22

Lots of countries change the names of things, even countries themselves.. Bombay to Mumbai, Ceylon to Sri Lanka, Turkey to Türkiye etc. Yes, some of those are specific to a name in a particular language and all have precedents rather than being entirely new. However, it is a precedent for governments deciding the names of things. This, as its just made up, reminds me a lot of political/nationalist renaming of things…

> However, it is a precedent for governments deciding the names of things.

??? that's not true at all

> reminds me a lot of political/nationalist renaming of things like roads which is very common in parts of South Asia

Isn't that very common in... Canada?

    Ottawa, Sir John A. Macdonald Parkway -> Kichi Zībī Mīkan (2023)
    Winnipeg, Bishop Grandin Boulevard -> Abinojii Mikanah (2023–24)
    Halifax, Cornwallis Street -> Nora Bernard Street (2023)
    Montreal, Rue Amherst -> Rue Atateken (2019)
    Vancouver, Trutch Street -> šxʷməθkʷəy̓əmasəm Street (2025)
    Victoria, Trutch Street -> Su'it Street (2022)
    Calgary, Langevin Bridge -> Reconciliation Bridge (2017)
It's not like the current US admin is the first in North America to decide to rename things for political reasons.

Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

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>I expect the next administration will push through some laws limiting this sort of idiocy "In a 5-4 decision..."

It does feel as though the best chance the US had to fix this in living memory would have been if Biden's response to the "United States v. Trump" verdict had been to immediately execute the Justices who said that's fine. They're clearly OK with that, so it's not a problem that we can't ask them because they're dead, but the remaining Justices might now want to weigh in on whether it's OK to kill Supreme Court Justic…

Your preferred response to Trump trying to unilaterally seize power when an election didn't go "the right way" is to have Biden execute Supreme Court justices when a case didn't get decided "the right way"? You think that's better?

Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

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post #22

Lots of countries change the names of things, even countries themselves.. Bombay to Mumbai, Ceylon to Sri Lanka, Turkey to Türkiye etc. Yes, some of those are specific to a name in a particular language and all have precedents rather than being entirely new. However, it is a precedent for governments deciding the names of things. This, as its just made up, reminds me a lot of political/nationalist renaming of things…

Attempts to rename a body of water that is shared by two countries with the name of one of the countries, unilaterally, is 1) impolite, 2) pretty rare, and 3) completely ineffective and just makes you look weak.

Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

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post #35

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> November is going to be a historic electoral wipeout. So you have faith in the average American voter? (Or at least a plurality of them?)

The polls are increasingly dire for the GOP. They're even losing the military vote.

Dems are certainly less evil and marginally more competent, but they are still an unpopular shit show. Even with trump attacking America left and right and becoming deeply unpopular for it they're only a coin flip to win the senate. Vance is the single most likely person to become the next president.

As awful as it is, this is what America is now.

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Keep eating that propaganda, I guess! There was absolutely no reason for any of those 3 individuals to end up dead for the non-violent actions they took, and it has been repeatedly shown through video evidence that the federal government lied and continues to lie about the circumstances in all of those cases.

If the individuals would have acted civilly it would not have come to this. They are the only ones to blame for the consequences of their actions. And calling this actions non-violent is manipulative phrasing to make people think that the actions did not escalate the danger of the situation.

Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

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It does feel as though the best chance the US had to fix this in living memory would have been if Biden's response to the "United States v. Trump" verdict had been to immediately execute the Justices who said that's fine. They're clearly OK with that, so it's not a problem that we can't ask them because they're dead, but the remaining Justices might now want to weigh in on whether it's OK to kill Supreme Court Justic…

Your preferred response to Trump trying to unilaterally seize power when an election didn't go "the right way" is to have Biden execute Supreme Court justices when a case didn't get decided "the right way"? You think that's better ?

It's justice. The only sensible way to respond to "We've decided that your Office is above the Law" is to kill the people who made that decision. Most likely the remaining Justices have you incarcerated for murder, because um, yeah, that "The law doesn't apply to Presidents" decision is clearly a terrible idea as you have now demonstrated.

It's not even that many deaths, Trump's decisions have directly killed far more people than that without them having any say in the matter - He isn't (and never will be) in jail for it because of course these assholes get to do whatever they want and a Democrat will maybe send them a stern letter

The response we saw would be appropriate for toddlers but the Justices aren't toddlers, they're adults, they knew perfectly well what they were doing and so the only way to deliver justice was to ensure their decision has consequences.

Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

#119

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Keep eating that propaganda, I guess! There was absolutely no reason for any of those 3 individuals to end up dead for the non-violent actions they took, and it has been repeatedly shown through video evidence that the federal government lied and continues to lie about the circumstances in all of those cases.

If the individuals would have acted civilly it would not have come to this. They are the only ones to blame for the consequences of their actions. And calling this actions non-violent is manipulative phrasing to make people think that the actions did not escalate the danger of the situation.

Good people don't stand by "civilly" when they see their friends and neighbors attacked by thugs.

Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

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Tariffs are very populist and both sides have some amount of support for them, so I don’t see them going away. If anything, the democrats are less libertarian than the republicans (historically, before Trump), so I just don’t see them liberalizing tariffs so much as going back to a more sane Obama-style normal. The socialist wing of the Democratic Party is even less libertarian than the moderates, and it’s hard to ca…

Tariffs as a concept are fine. They're one of the economic tools available to a nation. What's particularly damaging about Trump's approach to tariffs is the uncertainty. The targets don't always make a lot of sense. They're done haphazardly through questionable paths, which means they're subject to legal challenges. They're changed on a whim when Trump decides he needs to make a splash, or when someone says somethin…

Moderate, business-oriented Democrats and Republicans would all agree with you, BUT these are a group of people that both sides of the party are railing against so they have basically no influence at this point. Even Obama, people selectively remember him fondly (or not) for his compassion and mild socialism, not for his strong free trade stance.
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