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Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

#101
post #14

This is an improvement on starting a war on oil markets and getting I've-lost-count-how-many innocents killed in the Middle East. So in many ways this could be considered a step up for US foreign policy. If Trump can stick to low-stakes pettiness that would be a real win for us all.

What high stakes stuff stopped when he did this, specifically?

Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

#102

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America does not tolerate masked thugs executing citizens. We aren't like South America who lets gangs take over territory within the country.

Renee Good, Alex Pretti, and Ruben Ray Martinez would love to debate you...except they were US citizens who were executed by masked ICE thugs, so they're unable to speak at the moment. We are absolutely being taken over by a gang / mafia style organization.

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Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

#103

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As Oscar Wilde didn't say: "Patriotism is a virtue of the vicious": https://quoteinvestigator.com/2019/06/28/patriot/ How do you have pride when the leader of your tribe is a liar, swindler, rapist, thug? What a simplistic mind that says unthinkingly "Well the leader of my country wants it, I'm not going to question him, rah rah!"

I have pride because America is the best country on Earth composed of the best people on Earth.

"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when it deserves it." - Mark Twain

This is my kind of patriotism, personally. I love America. I want America to succeed in the world. And I will call my government out when it is fucking it up.

Renaming Lake Ontario on a whim because Trump is no longer happy with the USMCA trade deal he himself made just a few years ago and the negotiations aren't going well because he keeps making crazy demands is squarely in "fucking it up" territory.

Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

#104
post #9

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Yes, but it's also Trump and the GOP self-immolating. November is going to be a historic electoral wipeout. I expect the next administration will push through some laws limiting this sort of idiocy.

> November is going to be a historic electoral wipeout. So you have faith in the average American voter? (Or at least a plurality of them?)

By attacking Iran, Trump fucked up the one thing that the average American voter will never forget, because they are reminded of it every day: the price of gas.

The midterms won't look pretty for him.

Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

#105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Renee Good, Alex Pretti, and Ruben Ray Martinez would love to debate you...except they were US citizens who were executed by masked ICE thugs, so they're unable to speak at the moment. We are absolutely being taken over by a gang / mafia style organization.

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Keep eating that propaganda, I guess!

There was absolutely no reason for any of those 3 individuals to end up dead for the non-violent actions they took, and it has been repeatedly shown through video evidence that the federal government lied and continues to lie about the circumstances in all of those cases.

Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

#106
post #4

See: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1206310 name:en=Lake Ontario vs. official_name:en-US=Lake America

Makes me wonder, has North Korea or Iran made an equivalent declaration about naming the USA "사탄의 겨드랑이" or "زیر بغل شیطان"? (Google Translate from "Satan's armpit"). I mean, if temper tantrums by the supreme executive are allowed and all.

North Korea has all sort of nasty names ready to throw at America, South Korea, or others, though at least I think they're just name-calling, not considering them as "official" names. (So, in a twisted sense, even North Korea is more adult-like than Trump. I guess that's another cause of celebration for some HN commenters who look up to Trump for being the manly leader who boldly does the right thing that nobody else dares to do.)

Thankfully, North Korea's antics doesn't matter, because nobody is trying to sell map service to North Koreans anyway.

Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

#107

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That's because the Democrats are controlled rather than true opposition. It still makes the party a better option than Republicans often times, in that they won't intentionally (but will sometimes accidentally) break things or start new fires, but they rarely (if ever) try to fix what's broken or put out existing fires. What we really need is to sweep away the existing party duopoly, particularly by dropping the bull…

Tariffs are very populist and both sides have some amount of support for them, so I don’t see them going away. If anything, the democrats are less libertarian than the republicans (historically, before Trump), so I just don’t see them liberalizing tariffs so much as going back to a more sane Obama-style normal. The socialist wing of the Democratic Party is even less libertarian than the moderates, and it’s hard to ca…

Tariffs as a concept are fine. They're one of the economic tools available to a nation.

What's particularly damaging about Trump's approach to tariffs is the uncertainty. The targets don't always make a lot of sense. They're done haphazardly through questionable paths, which means they're subject to legal challenges. They're changed on a whim when Trump decides he needs to make a splash, or when someone says something he doesn't like, or when he wants to blow up a negotiation, or whatever.

It all leads to a situation where business owners and investors can't really be sure what the tariff landscape is 6, 12, 18, 24 months into the future. Will the tariffs survive legal challenges? Who will Trump decide to tariff next? Which tariffs might be increased drastically next week?

That is not an environment that fosters investment and business growth.

Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

#108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As Oscar Wilde didn't say: "Patriotism is a virtue of the vicious": https://quoteinvestigator.com/2019/06/28/patriot/ How do you have pride when the leader of your tribe is a liar, swindler, rapist, thug? What a simplistic mind that says unthinkingly "Well the leader of my country wants it, I'm not going to question him, rah rah!"

I have pride because America is the best country on Earth composed of the best people on Earth.

/r/shitamericanssay

Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

#109
post #24

Canada should change the name of the country below them to “Bottom Canada” Honestly can’t believe there’s a few million very smart people in America who have to put up with this. Bridges for Americans worldwide are being burned to the ground and there’s no sign of a new enlightened political age arriving on any horizon. Canadians also don’t seem to understand that this situation is only going to get worse and America…

I propose we change it to "Trumpistan".

The orange narcissist will probably see it as a win and the sane people in the country may finally be embarrassed enough to actually do something about him and his cronies.

Re: Lake Ontario ("Lake America")

#110
post #55

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Idiocracy is more like a work of Baudrillardian philosophy though, it isn’t punching down, it’s extrapolating upwards.

Admittedly it's been a long time since I watched it but isn't the introduction sequence straight-up apologia for the theories behind eugenics? The idea 'what if society got massively more stupid' isn't a bad one for a film but 'the rabbit-like hordes of the stupid outgroup ourbred our elite ingroup to extinction' rubs me the wrong way. Maybe I'm being unfair to the film because of the fanbase as well. I've always see…

> Maybe I'm being unfair to the film because of the fanbase as well. I've always seen it as a mild red flag when someone says it's their favourite comedy, but it's hardly the film's fault it got popular on places like reddit.

This is circular reasoning: You don't like the film because of the fanbase which you don't like because they like the film.

There is no "apologia for eugenics" in the intro. You have to actively infer that as a logical consequence ("we need to prevent stupid people from procreating as much") of what is shown ("society becomes stupid when stupid people procreate more than intelligent people"). The reason it is only in the intro and is never revisited is that it is just the setup for the actual movie, not a message in itself (the whole sequence is in fact very dissimilar from the rest of the movie). A more accurate setup would be that we have a culture that selects for primitive behavior and is anti-intellectual, but that isn't as funny as showing Cletus fucking everything that moves.

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