So bullshit safeguards are still there.
Claude Fable 5.1 and Claude Mythos 5.1
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#52> Denser prose in places.
Really? Interesting choice. Pretty much every CLAUDE.md file I have starts with something about Hemingway, terseness and treating every word you use like you're carving it on your own back, but different strokes for different folks. I suppose I haven't heard from anyone who enjoys how wordy Claude is because they aren't done writing their post yet.
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#53I yearn for a model that can churn through claude text and write sensible text. so far gemini is pretty good at that, even in the low variant
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#54Has anyone been able to get anything substantial done with Fable in the first place? I more or less had totally given up on using it since the alignment checks were so sensitive that it pretty much always threw me back to Opus.
When fable first released it was almost useless. Since then, it's improved a lot. It has been working on my binary ninja MCP server just fine. It flagged for cyber 1 time (no idea why), but it generally works fine.
I have noticed sometimes it likes to gaslight itself into thinking that everything its doing is allowed or allowable, I saw that it thought the game I was reverse engineering was running on a private server (it was not) so it assumed it had permission to do anything lol.
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#55I was looking forward to using Fable for cybersecurity work, but kept getting bumped to Opus… Signed my org up for CVP, went through the trouble of procuring a separate team plan from our main org as Anthropic can only disable cyber safeguards for an entire org and not individual users…
After months of trouble dealing with KYC and procurement I finally got CVP for my security org and today I found out that CVP (which is what removes cyber safeguards) does not apply to Fable…
So yeah, unless you’re a Project Glasswing member, there’s no using Fable (which with Glasswing is Mythos) for security work… Absolutely useless…
Didn’t they just sign some “we must use AI for cyber defense before the bad guys do” and then they artificially cap us by not allowing Cyber-unlocked Fable…
Sigh…
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#56At least half the changes are just anti-distillation strategies...
Good to know they're getting desperate, the sooner they implode the better
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#57Has anyone been able to get anything substantial done with Fable in the first place? I more or less had totally given up on using it since the alignment checks were so sensitive that it pretty much always threw me back to Opus.
You don't seem to be alone: FT.com: Anthropic’s best AI model struggles to attract users as cheaper tools thrive. AI lab’s Fable 5 has met with sluggish demand from corporate clients [1]
[1] https://www.ft.com/content/5ee49718-c258-4f01-aa32-7e5b76ae5...
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#58Has anyone been able to get anything substantial done with Fable in the first place? I more or less had totally given up on using it since the alignment checks were so sensitive that it pretty much always threw me back to Opus.
I've used Fable for so much stuff. My experience has been that it can pretty much one-shot most of my complex problems, if I describe them clearly and provide a solid way for it to verify its work. I get punted down to Opus 5 occasionally (for security-adjacent things) but that's pretty rare.
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#59"Cache reads now cost 75% less, or $0.25 per million tokens." For me, at a typical 95% cache hit rate, I think my optimal context window size before autocompaction goes from ~200K to ~400K tokens. Great for longer horizon tasks.