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Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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> "Block[ing] every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID. Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out" Personally for me, a fake convoluted opt-out is the same as no opt out so we're already there. Even Fortnite failed to distribute outside the Play Store, if they can't despite being famous, well you can't.

> Personally for me, a fake convoluted opt-out is the same as no opt out so we're already there. Convoluted, yes, but fake ? Aren't you just repeating the same lie? That means it looks like it bypasses the verification but doesn't actually do so. What are you basing that off of?

I'm talking about it as an app distribution method from the perspective of a developer and an app distribution method you can only ask a few people on Github to perform definitely isn't a valid one to me.

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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Apps need to exit the Play Store. I have a whole slew of apps which haven't been updated for a while now because Aurora Store isn't working because of whatever Google of doing. Meanwhile the ones installed via FDroid and other means are perfectly up to date. It's a crappy state of affairs as Google continues to close the boiling Android frog.

Apps can only exit the store after users do.

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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Apps need to exit the Play Store. I have a whole slew of apps which haven't been updated for a while now because Aurora Store isn't working because of whatever Google of doing. Meanwhile the ones installed via FDroid and other means are perfectly up to date. It's a crappy state of affairs as Google continues to close the boiling Android frog.

if i had a commercial app that i wanted to distribute off the play store, what are the options?

Put an APK file download on your website, but it won't help discoverability.

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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post #120

Apps need to exit the Play Store. I have a whole slew of apps which haven't been updated for a while now because Aurora Store isn't working because of whatever Google of doing. Meanwhile the ones installed via FDroid and other means are perfectly up to date. It's a crappy state of affairs as Google continues to close the boiling Android frog.

This just should not be the top comment here. HN being HN, it's way, way too bent out of shape about the company name attached to the app store and not the minutiae of tax policy, which is what this is really about. The app in question declares itself this way: AnkiDroid is a free, open-source flashcard app for Android with over 10 million installs, used worldwide for various purposes, primarily in medical education…

The 501(c)(6) in question is Open Source Collective, which is a “business league or industry association” dedicated to providing financial and administrative assistance to Open Source projects. Anki does not have lawyers, Open Source Collective does.

https://oscollective.org

This is an interesting rabbit hole if you bother to go down it, I encourage you to do some more research.

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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We both agree that there is a speed limit and it needs to be adhered to, regardless of who it is. The problem with Google is that it may have started at 8 over the limit, but it advertised itself as sticking to the limit but always hovered slightly above it pushing the boundaries. This has skewed our perception into believing that Google's was acceptable and we have been gradually raising our threshold itself to a da…

Give it up. Stop defending your position when it's been pointed out that you are holding the two companies to two different standards. It's all right to admit you were wrong and learn something, even on the internet.

How do you know what standard he is holding Apple to? This thread is about Google and Apple was not mentioned.

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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post #148

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> Reddit locking subreddits behind login wall - well there's always old.reddit old.reddit is now locked behind login as well.

There's a workaround if you want it enough. I noticed that reddit was setting a use_redesign (I might have the name slightly wrong) cookie when I explicitly visited the old.reddit domain, and this caused old reddit to persist. Since I do occasionally want to use the new site for image posts and the like, I set up a bookmarklet to set/unset that cookie on command. I've since found that setting this cookie bypasses the…

The simple workaround to most of these walls is to create an account with your email address and phone number.

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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The "convoluted" way is/was the default in the absence of a monopolist app store. Before centralised app stores, users downloaded or bought boxed software ad-hoc and installed it on their computers from installation archives, just like you can install apps from APK files on Android. If you banned Google from preloading their app store, isn't that what we would revert to?

The goal is not to prevent a Google monopoly. The goal is to have competition to prevent Google abusing its monopoly to lock down users. There is Samsung Galaxy store.There is Xiaomi store.There was Amazon app store which failed to gain traction as it was not pre-installed but had decent number of apps. This is even before we get to open stores like F-droid. Now their viability is a question in the long term, if Goog…

Google doesn't have complete discretion. On Samsung phones, Samsung's discretion overrides Google's. On Xiaomi phones, Xiaomi's discretion overrides Google's.

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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I think the old reddit redirect extension gets around this somehow, that has worked for me lately (occasionally with some toggling of the extension). Although maybe it's best to just use less reddit tbh

Not anymore :-( But it's a good thing, actually because: - when reddit is good it's way to addictive - reddit has become nearly as bad as most other social media sites So if they force me to use an account, I'll finally be able to kick the habit ;-)

Reddit has been akin to Facebook since around 2022.

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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Being a developer, I can say that working with Google is a pain. There is no possibility to talk with a human, all communication is answered by the same AI-generated response that links you to the same AI-generated documentation. And if such AI does something wrong (which it does) no matter what they WILL REMOVE your app. Because they don't care about you. Sometimes the only way out is to publish the app again with a…

My experience was that my person got banned from ever submitting apps. I could try making a new account, but I'd have to provide ID so their AI might know to ban me again.

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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F-Droid is a nerd solution and will be used by 0.00001% of the total market. There are more people that will use Linux on desktop than will use F-Droid. We need governments to mandate both Apple and Google to allow web installs of apps. No requirement for Apple/Google pay, Apple/Google login, or Apple/Google services. Total freedom for users, for developers, and for competitors. This duopoly has fucked over America a…

Android is Google's billboard/surveillance tool they've invested deeply in. Why on earth would they let anyone else participate?

Exactly. Thus regulation and enforcement.
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