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Introducing Ad Blocker for Firefox on iOS

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Re: Introducing Ad Blocker for Firefox on iOS

#31

Post by Melatonic »

WD-42 wrote: post #3

It's been days (weeks?) and I'm still waiting for the option to appear for me. These "experiments" are super annoying when you are on what I'm assuming is the long tail of a rollout but the marketing/blog posts speak of the feature like it's already launched. If there's someone at Mozilla reading this: turn it on already! I want to get off Orion, it's so buggy, but the internet is unusable without an ad blocker.

Is it that buggy ? Orion works pretty well for me. Where you have you ran into bugs ?

Re: Introducing Ad Blocker for Firefox on iOS

#32

Post by barbazoo »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #28
overflowy wrote: post #10

FYI: Doesn't block YouTube ads.

I'm regularly surprised that people are willing to block YouTube ads. I know that Google gets that advertising money too, but you're also blocking revenue that the channel owner would otherwise get. I suppose it might depend what you're watching, but most YouTubers aren't big business, they're just individuals. YouTube Premium is one of the few subscriptions I am completely happy to pay.

It doesn't have to go through Google. Lots of us support the people they follow through patreon et al, I don't need to make the gigacorp even richer than it is. They have enough.

Re: Introducing Ad Blocker for Firefox on iOS

#33

Post by ncr100 »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #28
overflowy wrote: post #10

FYI: Doesn't block YouTube ads.

I'm regularly surprised that people are willing to block YouTube ads. I know that Google gets that advertising money too, but you're also blocking revenue that the channel owner would otherwise get. I suppose it might depend what you're watching, but most YouTubers aren't big business, they're just individuals. YouTube Premium is one of the few subscriptions I am completely happy to pay.

Youtube decides the thresholds, the payouts, the promotional algorithms.

Re: Introducing Ad Blocker for Firefox on iOS

#34

Post by embedding-shape »

mossTechnician wrote: post #26
NikxDa wrote: post #5

I was going to give credit to the direction Mozilla was taking here after their... questionable decisions in the past few year(s). Only to see that this is neither generally available, nor can you use it without enabling telemetry. I don't know who makes these decisions inside Mozilla, but I just don't get it.

I think you can use it without enabling telemetry, due to a recent change: > Previously, access to these changes required you to share technical and interraction data (telemetry) with Mozilla. However, as of Firefox version 148, you can opt into receiving remote improvements, even if you have opted out of sharing your telemetry or participating in our experimental studies. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/remote-…

> access to these changes required you to share technical and interraction data (telemetry) with Mozilla

How did that even happen? I sure hope that was a bug and not a product decision, because that sounds very backwards.

Re: Introducing Ad Blocker for Firefox on iOS

#35

Post by WD-42 »

Melatonic wrote: post #31
WD-42 wrote: post #3

It's been days (weeks?) and I'm still waiting for the option to appear for me. These "experiments" are super annoying when you are on what I'm assuming is the long tail of a rollout but the marketing/blog posts speak of the feature like it's already launched. If there's someone at Mozilla reading this: turn it on already! I want to get off Orion, it's so buggy, but the internet is unusable without an ad blocker.

Is it that buggy ? Orion works pretty well for me. Where you have you ran into bugs ?

The address bar likes to randomly move off the side of the screen and I have to force restart the app to get it back.

Re: Introducing Ad Blocker for Firefox on iOS

#37

Post by skarz »

cedws wrote: post #9

Can it block YouTube ads? Would be a killer feature.

For that, there's ProTube[1]. On the surface it behaves like YouTube Premium, under the hood it's just the mobile version of YouTube bundled into an iOS app. I have no idea why ads aren't served, I analyzed the network requests with Fiddler Everywhere and saw nothing nefarious.

[1] https://apps.apple.com/us/app/protube-block-ads-on-video/id6...

Re: Introducing Ad Blocker for Firefox on iOS

#38

Post by nemomarx »

embedding-shape wrote: post #34
mossTechnician wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you can use it without enabling telemetry, due to a recent change: > Previously, access to these changes required you to share technical and interraction data (telemetry) with Mozilla. However, as of Firefox version 148, you can opt into receiving remote improvements, even if you have opted out of sharing your telemetry or participating in our experimental studies. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/remote-…

> access to these changes required you to share technical and interraction data (telemetry) with Mozilla How did that even happen? I sure hope that was a bug and not a product decision, because that sounds very backwards.

I think for their labs / beta features they just require it to get testing data

Re: Introducing Ad Blocker for Firefox on iOS

#40

Post by izzydata »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #28
overflowy wrote: post #10

FYI: Doesn't block YouTube ads.

I'm regularly surprised that people are willing to block YouTube ads. I know that Google gets that advertising money too, but you're also blocking revenue that the channel owner would otherwise get. I suppose it might depend what you're watching, but most YouTubers aren't big business, they're just individuals. YouTube Premium is one of the few subscriptions I am completely happy to pay.

I inherently disagree with the ad model of business. Intentionally worsening a product with ads to convince people to pay to remove them is just rewarding them for enshitification.

So on that front I'd prefer YouTube go out of business so that something like Nebula can take its place. Or the only videos left at\re the ones doing it as a hobby and not as a job.

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