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Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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Post by maybewhenthesun »

qbit42 wrote: post #56
Forgeties79 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually old reddit doesn’t work that way anymore lol you must login or use crappy reddit, which is exactly to your point though! They will just keep making it harder and harder until you simply can’t, but by then so a few people will be “opting in/out” that they’ll argue nobody wants the ability to toggle that anyway.

I think the old reddit redirect extension gets around this somehow, that has worked for me lately (occasionally with some toggling of the extension). Although maybe it's best to just use less reddit tbh

Not anymore :-(

But it's a good thing, actually because: - when reddit is good it's way to addictive - reddit has become nearly as bad as most other social media sites

So if they force me to use an account, I'll finally be able to kick the habit ;-)

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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Post by wafflemaker »

Klaster_1 wrote: post #2

AnkiDroid has been such a great boon for me, thank you for sharing the link and reminding that they would benefit from my donation.

Seconded here. So far only used ready made sets, especially the fantastic CCNA one from Jeremy's IT Labs. But I guess that if I fix few more errors, I'll break into creating my own cards.

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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Post by nottorp »

maelito wrote: post #10

If only PWA were not made invisible by Apple. The install button has been moved voluntarily to the share menu. The UE should make it mandatory to permit PWA install popups on all platforms. Such problems wouldn't arise, because this app could be installable as a cached Web app. A native mobile application could be installed only for specific functionalities.

> The UE should make it mandatory to permit PWA install popups on all platforms.

"It works better in the app?". No thanks. In 99.95% of cases the reasons for that popup are predatory, not in the interest of the user.

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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Post by realusername »

dataflow wrote: post #48
realusername wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Things are really bad already on Android. Most bootloaders are locked, Google prevents you to use the very few unlocked ones through the (legally questionable) Play Integrity. AOSP is basically dead (it doesn't even include a functional keyboard nor a functional call manager nowadays, can it still be called a phone?) and now they are further locking direct installs

> Things are really bad already on Android. Most bootloaders are locked, Google prevents you to use the very few unlocked ones through the (legally questionable) Play Integrity. AOSP is basically dead This feels like complaining about the color of the bikeshed, me saying you should save your complaints for when things get really bad, and you replying "things are really bad already, there is a rotten carcass in there…

What would be "really bad" for you? Non-google Android is dead outside of China and you can't realistically distribute software either without a Google stamp.

I don't see much difference between Android and iOS in terms of openness nowadays personally.

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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Post by NoboruWataya »

dataflow wrote: post #4

> Play billing "must not be used in cases where payments include … tax exempt donations" > Note: 501(c)(6) is a tax-exempt status; donations are not tax-deductible for the donor. Google's communications explicitly state "tax-exempt". Isn't it pretty obvious that the problem is the donations aren't tax-exempt, despite the organization being tax-exempt? Your note suggests you already understand this. Logically, the pay…

The policy is far from clear cut, and even having read your comments I am still not sure what you think it's trying to say. The policy suggests that an app may lead users to another payment method where the payment is a "tax exempt donation". What tax, specifically, are you suggesting a donation to OSC is not exempt from? You mention sales tax, is it the case that donations are not exempt from (ie, are subject to) sales tax?

Or are you saying the key point is that the donation not tax-deductible for the donor, which is a different thing to being tax exempt (and does not have anything to do with the "taxability of the transaction")?

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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Post by zoobab »

zetanor wrote: post #13

I suppose there might be a way to sign up for the alternative billing scheme: https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answ... but make sure to "pay the relevant Play service fee, starting October 1, 2026." Very cool, Google.

"pay the relevant Play service fee"

We were promised alternative app stores in the EU, but the European Commission does not stop them.

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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Post by thayne »

dataflow wrote: post #59
fwip wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aren't donations untaxed?

> Aren't donations untaxed? I don't know every jurisdiction, but that's not the only relevant factor. If they are tax-deductible, they still introduce the need for paperwork etc. for the payment processor to let the payer deduct it from their own income. A 0% tax on some action doesn't imply you don't have to worry about tax law when performing said action. Though I think you can just read the policy and take it at f…

But the complaint isn't that Google won't process the payment. It's that they won't allow them to link to an OpenCollective donation page, and presumably OpenCollective would handle anything like that.

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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Post by Markoff »

skeledrew wrote: post #39

Apps need to exit the Play Store. I have a whole slew of apps which haven't been updated for a while now because Aurora Store isn't working because of whatever Google of doing. Meanwhile the ones installed via FDroid and other means are perfectly up to date. It's a crappy state of affairs as Google continues to close the boiling Android frog.

it certainly worked few days ago, I see last successful updates on August 26, tried just now and it doesn't work now

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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Post by dataflow »

realusername wrote: post #64
dataflow wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Things are really bad already on Android. Most bootloaders are locked, Google prevents you to use the very few unlocked ones through the (legally questionable) Play Integrity. AOSP is basically dead This feels like complaining about the color of the bikeshed, me saying you should save your complaints for when things get really bad, and you replying "things are really bad already, there is a rotten carcass in there…

What would be "really bad" for you? Non-google Android is dead outside of China and you can't realistically distribute software either without a Google stamp. I don't see much difference between Android and iOS in terms of openness nowadays personally.

> What would be "really bad" for you?

"Block[ing] every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID. Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out"

...would be "really bad" in my view.

Which is probably exactly why they worded it that way, despite knowing fully well they are (rather blatantly) lying. They literally explained how to avoid it themselves further down below, after you've already been angered.

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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Post by pmkary »

In Iran, we have a reverse market competition rule that is "instead of the market lowering prices to be competitive with the lowest price, as soon as one actor pushes the prices up, all other actors raise their own prices as fast as humanly possible."

I'm amazed to see the exact playbook be used here. Instead of people opposing Apple's horrible App Store, it seems that every other store is studying their strategies.

I think by the time of Apple's next court case on the App Store, the judge will pay them something back as they'll arrive at the conclusion of Apple doing nothing out of the ordinary.

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