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Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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If only PWA were not made invisible by Apple. The install button has been moved voluntarily to the share menu. The UE should make it mandatory to permit PWA install popups on all platforms. Such problems wouldn't arise, because this app could be installable as a cached Web app. A native mobile application could be installed only for specific functionalities.

Every slop website would then repeatedly try to pop up and install button.

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

#53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We've been seeking official clarification from Google on this for over a month. That's what we're seeking here. It's not clear given Google's policy wording and replies. We've removed the links, and can move forward once clarification has been provided.

Their emails are confusing, but they came after the alleged violation in private communication, not what you were going from at the time of the alleged violation. If you ignore them momentarily (surely you understand they probably aren't as well-scrutinized by lawyers, which would explain why they appear to mistakenly refer to the tax status of the recipient rather than that of the donation), is anything else actuall…

Aren't donations untaxed?

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

#54
post #47
post #4

> Play billing "must not be used in cases where payments include … tax exempt donations" > Note: 501(c)(6) is a tax-exempt status; donations are not tax-deductible for the donor. Google's communications explicitly state "tax-exempt". Isn't it pretty obvious that the problem is the donations aren't tax-exempt, despite the organization being tax-exempt? Your note suggests you already understand this. Logically, the pay…

> the payment processor (who deals with sales taxes rather than income taxes) should worry about the taxability of the transaction rather than the tax status of the recipient A donation is not a sale of a good or service. This is not a question of sales tax collection.

I didn't say it's a question of sales tax collections. I said a payment processor deals with sales taxes.

In this case they clearly have to exempt this transaction from sales tax in order to support it, when other transactions through their system do get sale tax applied. So the mere fact that they have to deal with sales taxes in general is likely to introduce additional complications for them even here, in cases where sales tax turns out not to be applicable.

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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Apps need to exit the Play Store. I have a whole slew of apps which haven't been updated for a while now because Aurora Store isn't working because of whatever Google of doing. Meanwhile the ones installed via FDroid and other means are perfectly up to date. It's a crappy state of affairs as Google continues to close the boiling Android frog.

I think there are more and more apps on f-droid.

On my end the experience was more pleasant on f-droid than on Google. On f-droid I had to manually push some things, in repositories. That I solved in a week or so.

On Google end I had to verify my account. Which was not easy feat.

- had to provide my ID several times, because it got rejected multiple times

- I uploaded driving license

- the verification process was stuck

- only after help ticket google employee pushed it forward

- I had to provide many more details, also had to use banking to pay substantial amount of money

- I currently trying to create app, but it requires 14 testers, and it can still be rejected, if their involvement was too poor

I am wondering what more things Google will invent to make my life worse.

By the way my app: https://github.com/rumca-js/OfflineWebSearch

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

#56
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When do we stop this instinctive response of "well you can still do it in an only slightly convoluted way" everytime a corporate does something bad. Windows added ads - well you can disable them, if you don't like it. Chrome brought up mv3 - well you can still use mv2, it is only optional. Reddit locking subreddits behind login wall - well there's always old.reddit Android moving everything to playstore - there's alw…

Actually old reddit doesn’t work that way anymore lol you must login or use crappy reddit, which is exactly to your point though! They will just keep making it harder and harder until you simply can’t, but by then so a few people will be “opting in/out” that they’ll argue nobody wants the ability to toggle that anyway.

I think the old reddit redirect extension gets around this somehow, that has worked for me lately (occasionally with some toggling of the extension). Although maybe it's best to just use less reddit tbh

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

#57

Apps need to exit the Play Store. I have a whole slew of apps which haven't been updated for a while now because Aurora Store isn't working because of whatever Google of doing. Meanwhile the ones installed via FDroid and other means are perfectly up to date. It's a crappy state of affairs as Google continues to close the boiling Android frog.

Crappy state of affairs is that the tax payer funded regulators twiddle their thumbs and do nothing about it.

Corporation like Google should have been fined to the edge of bankruptcy for such predatory behaviour.

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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post #6

Not Google's first rodeo. They pulled the same move in 2019: https://www.phoronix.com/news/WireGuard-Ejected-Play-Store This is why software should not be subjected to an "app store" type distribution system, where a monopolist retains absolute control of what software can run on your devices, and can capriciously deny distribution to developers for whatever reason it likes.

You can install from other stores (AnkiDroid is on F-Droid, for example), or from direct file download on Android already. The problem is rather thay most users just use the store preinstalled on their phone as part of Google's deal with OEMs to bundle Google Play Services. So either you follow Google's rules, or you lose all the users who don't want to leave the walled garden, even though they can.

But not for long. Sideloading is being frowned upon by the mighty G

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their emails are confusing, but they came after the alleged violation in private communication, not what you were going from at the time of the alleged violation. If you ignore them momentarily (surely you understand they probably aren't as well-scrutinized by lawyers, which would explain why they appear to mistakenly refer to the tax status of the recipient rather than that of the donation), is anything else actuall…

Aren't donations untaxed?

> Aren't donations untaxed?

I don't know every jurisdiction, but that's not the only relevant factor. If they are tax-deductible, they still introduce the need for paperwork etc. for the payment processor to let the payer deduct it from their own income. A 0% tax on some action doesn't imply you don't have to worry about tax law when performing said action.

Though I think you can just read the policy and take it at face value and not even have to know any of this beforehand.

Re: AnkiDroid: Google Play no longer allowing Open Collective donation link

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post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually old reddit doesn’t work that way anymore lol you must login or use crappy reddit, which is exactly to your point though! They will just keep making it harder and harder until you simply can’t, but by then so a few people will be “opting in/out” that they’ll argue nobody wants the ability to toggle that anyway.

I think the old reddit redirect extension gets around this somehow, that has worked for me lately (occasionally with some toggling of the extension). Although maybe it's best to just use less reddit tbh

I resigned as a mod after the API shitshow and am so glad I did. It’s a terrible site. I wind up there every month or two from friends or looking something up, it’s hard to see how much of a cesspool it is when you’re so invested in it and up close.
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