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Re: Fastpotify

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Post by BoingBoomTschak »

Shorel wrote: post #230
wilted-iris wrote: post #2

Spotify is in the process of killing the librespot project that this and most third party Spotify players are built on. I think the golden age of music streaming is coming to an end. I’ve migrated to a self hosted library with streaming and radio for discovery. I hope we’ll see many projects in the space flourish. Many, like Navidrome and the whole OpenSubsonic ecosystem, seem to be doing quite well.

I feel I am in the golden age of music streaming right now. Just use Deezer instead of Spotify. Perfect quality and it great selection.

I have a free Deezer account from my family. Shit is extremely barren. Some examples:

1. (already posted on HN) Wanted to try Midori's early stuff, but no "1st" EP nor "2nd" LP. Not on Spotify nor Apple Music either.

Only yesterday:

2. Looking at Bleach (the Japanese hardcore punk/noise rock band): nothing and they aren't extremely obscure or anything (https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/bleach-4). They're on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/artist/5gRsPZZNgrkagQnDlyFZUC) but missing two LPs; on Apple Music too (https://music.apple.com/us/artist/bleach/74570682) and one more LP available.

3. Okay, let's try Meat Puppets' lauded second LP from my backlog... artist is there, but four first LPs aren't. On Spotify and Apple Music.

4. For fun, let's try to find that very obscure kote kei demo, (螺旋 (Rasen) - Hysterical Noi「z」e / Like「M」(1997)). Nothing, of course, but well, I can't even find it on private trackers or SoulSeek (got some mystery mp3s "somewhere").

So, if I were to stoop down to streaming, looks like Spotify/Apple are less worse here.

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by lostlogin »

tormeh wrote: post #247
rot256 wrote: post #238

Spotify is, without doubt, the worst piece of software that I still use on a daily basis. It's incredibly buggy, incredibly slow, and the UI has so many "usability inconsistencies". I find the Android app particularly bad, just a couple of examples: - Under a playlist you get a list of suggested songs, the UI element looks like a "regular song", but unlike every other "song" element the user has been trained to recog…

It's a music player, and it's way too heavy for what it does. Well, it does a lot it doesn't need to, too. Uses 1.5GB of RAM on my laptop atm. Since I only have 16GB on my work laptop that's noticeable. I'd love it if Spotify AB could replace its client with a native Rust one, although using an immediate-mode GUI library like fastpotify does might not be the best option... Is there any music streaming service with fa…

> It's a music player

Spotify doesn’t completely agree with that.

‘Spotify is a digital music, podcast, and video service that gives you access to millions of songs and other content from creators all over the world.’

I left in the middle of their ‘we do Podcasts’ bs, where they were pushing Joe Rogan hard.

Yuck.

https://support.spotify.com/nz/article/what-is-spotify/

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by short_sells_poo »

mr_mitm wrote: post #300
short_sells_poo wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm going to sound harsh here, but please don't take this as criticism of the effort, it's criticism of how it's being portrayed. The quality might for all intents be great and useful. > But I built this for myself out of frustration with the official client But you didn't build it. This is akin to me telling an intern to build me a widget and then claiming it was me who built it. Or a construction manager saying the…

In the original sense of the word, vibe coding means neither reading nor caring about the code: https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/19/vibe-coding/ Some would use the term "Agent Engineering" for what OP did.

There's a trend where people go around claiming they built something and just happen to conveniently omit everywhere that everything was "built" using an LLM and the author doesn't even understand what the code does. That's the crux of my objection.

FWIW I agree with your post and perhaps we need a separate name for people who just instructed an LLM to build something, but then took the trouble to understand how the thing actually works.

It seems to me that this is not the case here. The author used LLM to build the whole thing and left it at that. Which is completely fair, I'd do the same if I just wanted to scratch an itch with the minimal amount of effort, but then I wouldn't go around claiming "I built it".

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by flossly »

bentt wrote: post #305
zestyping wrote: post #280

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yes, the code is generated. Yes, the docs are generated. > I also wouldn't call this vibe coded either. It's vibe-coded. Get over it.

There is a lot of gray area between vibe coding and zero AI. Get over that too. End of the day this person is solving a good problem and sharing the work. This is what we want.

Also: nagging about the specifics of the README's tone of voice, while the 600-1000MB RAM usage drops to 100-250MB seems a little childish to me.

It's still open source! Just like in the pre-AI era they are welcome to submit a PR and improve it in the way they like it. The main dev seems very open to accepting help.

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by toofy »

tormeh wrote: post #247
rot256 wrote: post #238

Spotify is, without doubt, the worst piece of software that I still use on a daily basis. It's incredibly buggy, incredibly slow, and the UI has so many "usability inconsistencies". I find the Android app particularly bad, just a couple of examples: - Under a playlist you get a list of suggested songs, the UI element looks like a "regular song", but unlike every other "song" element the user has been trained to recog…

It's a music player, and it's way too heavy for what it does. Well, it does a lot it doesn't need to, too. Uses 1.5GB of RAM on my laptop atm. Since I only have 16GB on my work laptop that's noticeable. I'd love it if Spotify AB could replace its client with a native Rust one, although using an immediate-mode GUI library like fastpotify does might not be the best option... Is there any music streaming service with fa…

> Is there any music streaming service with fast native cross-platform (Linux, Mac, Windows, Android) clients? Because I'd switch.

i use apple music. love it way more than spotify. i originally got it because their descriptions of albums and their playlists are done by actual music nerds. i use the website on linux since it’s my daily/work driver and their app on my phone and macbook when i use it. the apple music app was fine on windows before i switched to linux entirely. definitely leagues better than itunes was.

have the family plan and i never hear complaints from the family members who use it on android.

i hated how spotify would just remove tracks after id spend time making a playlist and suddenly it would just be gone, like not greyed out, just gone. so irritating.

in terms recommendations, apple is a definitely far better than spotify, but it’s still nothing compared to music store nerds, college radio, or friends. recommendation algorithms from every platform are trash and just can’t compete with other people, at all. go to your local record store, look through the employee recommendations or just talk to them, most of them are working in a music store because they love music (its not for the money lol) and then buy the vinyl, you’ll thank yourself later.

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by LollipopYakuza »

mogoh wrote: post #264
rot256 wrote: post #238

Spotify is, without doubt, the worst piece of software that I still use on a daily basis. It's incredibly buggy, incredibly slow, and the UI has so many "usability inconsistencies". I find the Android app particularly bad, just a couple of examples: - Under a playlist you get a list of suggested songs, the UI element looks like a "regular song", but unlike every other "song" element the user has been trained to recog…

Why is spotify so popular? There are different solutions to listen to music. What does spotify do that almost no one else does? Is it the music library or something else? I use youtube music, but I am looking for alternatives (but not spotify for various reasons).

Spotify Connect has no real equivalent

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by lostlogin »

BatteryMountain wrote: post #276
rot256 wrote: post #238

Spotify is, without doubt, the worst piece of software that I still use on a daily basis. It's incredibly buggy, incredibly slow, and the UI has so many "usability inconsistencies". I find the Android app particularly bad, just a couple of examples: - Under a playlist you get a list of suggested songs, the UI element looks like a "regular song", but unlike every other "song" element the user has been trained to recog…

I've cancelled mine 5 years ago after they keep showing me ganster music and podcasts on my main page, even though I no history of listening or liking such content. So they keep trying to force it into my life. Secondly, they messed up the explorability of artists, playlist and related music. They also removed music from the catalogue, meaning on my playlist there are big memory holes of my favourite music, as they d…

Their Joe Rogan period was baffling. It reminded me of Apple and U2.

Apple’s boomer surprise when they discovered we don’t all like U2 was hilarious.

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by lostlogin »

mogoh wrote: post #264
rot256 wrote: post #238

Spotify is, without doubt, the worst piece of software that I still use on a daily basis. It's incredibly buggy, incredibly slow, and the UI has so many "usability inconsistencies". I find the Android app particularly bad, just a couple of examples: - Under a playlist you get a list of suggested songs, the UI element looks like a "regular song", but unlike every other "song" element the user has been trained to recog…

Why is spotify so popular? There are different solutions to listen to music. What does spotify do that almost no one else does? Is it the music library or something else? I use youtube music, but I am looking for alternatives (but not spotify for various reasons).

Music discovery on Spotify used to be great, but I left 5+ years ago so I’m unsure now.
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