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Re: Fastpotify

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Post by stuaxo »

earcar wrote: post #201
alexyoung wrote: post #141

I realise I’m pissing into the wind here, but I find the LLM text on the homepage and docs quite funny/ awkward. > “Ctrl+M turns it into a tiny player that wears any classic Winamp 2 skin, spectrum analyser, equalizer, and playlist included. 2000s vibes, pixel for pixel.” Everything is said with too much intensity, and phrasing that sounds impressive but doesn’t really mean that much. Like “wears any classic Winamp 2…

Author here. Yes, the code is generated. Yes, the docs are generated. I agree LLM copy is annoying and will rewrite them myself. But I built this for myself out of frustration with the official client, and I use it every day, so every bug I find is fixed immediately. I also care about bugs and PRs from other people, as you can see the amount that have been closed on the repo. The only reason I would stop maintaining…

The official client is very annoying.

I rewrite docs myself on my own projects because they read as very LLMish, there's an intermediate stage which feels slightly less bad where I ask it to remove most of the comments, especially LLM signposting ones and then "rewrite any remaining comments and docs in a dry ukgov/gds style" which makes things slighyly less worse.

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by k3liutZu »

PatronBernard wrote: post #203
alexyoung wrote: post #141

I realise I’m pissing into the wind here, but I find the LLM text on the homepage and docs quite funny/ awkward. > “Ctrl+M turns it into a tiny player that wears any classic Winamp 2 skin, spectrum analyser, equalizer, and playlist included. 2000s vibes, pixel for pixel.” Everything is said with too much intensity, and phrasing that sounds impressive but doesn’t really mean that much. Like “wears any classic Winamp 2…

Having used Claude a lot for the past four months, I get exhausted from its style. Every sentence has been buffed and polished and enhanced and it never just plainly says a thing. It's as if you have to eat every meal with every possible flavor enhancer in existence. At one point I will totally lose it if it mentions "smoke test" one more time. It is also totally not what I want for docstrings in code or Powerpoint d…

Have a bit of food dropped into the MSG container. Now eat the whole container

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by stuaxo »

One of the things I liked the least about spotify is typing in a song name, and then getting a infinite list of every song named like that.

I want the song to be a starting point, like Last.fm radio was, I almost never want to listen to every version of it.

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by mogoh »

rot256 wrote: post #238

Spotify is, without doubt, the worst piece of software that I still use on a daily basis. It's incredibly buggy, incredibly slow, and the UI has so many "usability inconsistencies". I find the Android app particularly bad, just a couple of examples: - Under a playlist you get a list of suggested songs, the UI element looks like a "regular song", but unlike every other "song" element the user has been trained to recog…

Why is spotify so popular? There are different solutions to listen to music. What does spotify do that almost no one else does? Is it the music library or something else?

I use youtube music, but I am looking for alternatives (but not spotify for various reasons).

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by eli »

short_sells_poo wrote: post #245
earcar wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Author here. Yes, the code is generated. Yes, the docs are generated. I agree LLM copy is annoying and will rewrite them myself. But I built this for myself out of frustration with the official client, and I use it every day, so every bug I find is fixed immediately. I also care about bugs and PRs from other people, as you can see the amount that have been closed on the repo. The only reason I would stop maintaining…

I'm going to sound harsh here, but please don't take this as criticism of the effort, it's criticism of how it's being portrayed. The quality might for all intents be great and useful. > But I built this for myself out of frustration with the official client But you didn't build it. This is akin to me telling an intern to build me a widget and then claiming it was me who built it. Or a construction manager saying the…

The construction manager can’t say they built a skyscraper? In that only for someone who personally laid every brick and ran every wire?

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by RunSet »

earcar wrote: post #201
alexyoung wrote: post #141

I realise I’m pissing into the wind here, but I find the LLM text on the homepage and docs quite funny/ awkward. > “Ctrl+M turns it into a tiny player that wears any classic Winamp 2 skin, spectrum analyser, equalizer, and playlist included. 2000s vibes, pixel for pixel.” Everything is said with too much intensity, and phrasing that sounds impressive but doesn’t really mean that much. Like “wears any classic Winamp 2…

Author here. Yes, the code is generated. Yes, the docs are generated. I agree LLM copy is annoying and will rewrite them myself. But I built this for myself out of frustration with the official client, and I use it every day, so every bug I find is fixed immediately. I also care about bugs and PRs from other people, as you can see the amount that have been closed on the repo. The only reason I would stop maintaining…

Should add a full page click through slop warning to each page on the site. Also give credit to the LLM that made it in the "Brought to you by" section at the bottom.

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by lysace »

djhworld wrote: post #259

I might be misremembering, but I swear when Spotify launched it was a big revelation at the time because the client was super fast and playback was almost instantaneous. This was a big deal as other music players like iTunes were bloated. Obviously streaming was the big selling point, something that iTunes didn’t offer at the time, but I swear the client was written in some native UI framework, along with the C/C++ l…

You're remembering correctly.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28203654

What's funny about having to rely on unauthorized clones to provide a fast native UX was that Spotify's original client back in 2008 started out as beautifully light, custom rendered native client.

Few Apps ever had that wow factor the first time I used it, it was so much lighter and more responsive than anything else of the day. I remember being perplexed at how I could search and skip to any part of a song quicker than iTunes could looking at a local library. Everything was latency-free and instantaneous.

We were building a Music Startup at the time, so we investigated how it worked. We we’re very surprised we couldn’t find any evidence of an established UI toolkit. It looked as though they had built their own custom UI renderer and optimized TCP protocol which sent back its metadata in XML. Their traffic looked like it was initially seeded from their own (or CDN) servers (for best latency) and then overtime we would see some P2P traffic on the wire.

Our QT/C++ client had decent performance but was noticeably heavier than Spotify's. I was disappointed to see their native client eventually be abandoned and succumb to become yet another Chromium wrapper. I expect it fell to the pressures of a growing startup adding 100s of developers (without the skill of their original CTO/devs) where a native UI couldn't be updated and re-iterated as fast as a Web App. I wish they maintained 2 desktop clients, and left their native client alone to just be an audio player and push all their new social features to their new flagship CEF app.

It's unfortunate the skill and desire of building fast native UIs are being lost to Electron and CEF wrappers. Seems the larger the organization the more likely they are to build new Web rendered Desktop Apps and we have to rely on unauthorized Indie efforts like this for fast, responsive native UIs.

(The comment is from a 2021 post about another Rust-based Spotify client.)

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by bityard »

wilted-iris wrote: post #87
nan60 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> radio for discovery Would you be willing to share a bit more about this setup? The only thing keeping my on streaming is the fact that its almost impossible to find new music otherwise. I know LastFM exists but it just doesn't click for me the way that streaming does. I like discovering music organically.

I listen to Flow State, SomaFM, and aggregate from local shows and a few people I follow on social media among other discovery platforms. (I don’t have a favorite yet.) I found that Spotify was increasingly recommending AI artists and songs I already knew. It surfaced very little outside of my comfort zone and effectively nothing that wasn’t new. There’s a whole world of music out there that Spotify wasn’t showing me…

I stopped listening to Pandora well over a decade ago because its algorithm eventually decided that I only liked 12 songs in the whole world.

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by wmichelin »

short_sells_poo wrote: post #245
earcar wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Author here. Yes, the code is generated. Yes, the docs are generated. I agree LLM copy is annoying and will rewrite them myself. But I built this for myself out of frustration with the official client, and I use it every day, so every bug I find is fixed immediately. I also care about bugs and PRs from other people, as you can see the amount that have been closed on the repo. The only reason I would stop maintaining…

I'm going to sound harsh here, but please don't take this as criticism of the effort, it's criticism of how it's being portrayed. The quality might for all intents be great and useful. > But I built this for myself out of frustration with the official client But you didn't build it. This is akin to me telling an intern to build me a widget and then claiming it was me who built it. Or a construction manager saying the…

This debate is irrelevant. It doesn't matter. Having the idea and the skills to dictate a stable piece of software are all that matter.

There is no point in taking pride in typing out lines of code by hand. The entire world is moving on.

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