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AI Can Make You Suck Faster Too

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Re: AI Can Make You Suck Faster Too

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While I do believe its a bubble, that seems like a silly viewpoint that presumes infinite risk tolerance.

Going long is not infinite, you only risk what you bet.

He said borrow with infinite leverage.

Re: AI Can Make You Suck Faster Too

#92
Alternatively, AI teaches you lessons about technical debt, code maintainability, and architecture faster too. Traditionally it took at least one or two years to really bump into those problems. Now any student can get into these problems within one or two weeks.

Re: AI Can Make You Suck Faster Too

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Pre-AI, the limiter on my bad code was how much code I could type in a day..... Now with AI I can 10x my output and 10x my bad code!

Whoever is giving a bad coder resources and access will eventually stop

Not at any decently sized company. Delivering features is all that matters. By the time you're cleaning up the buggy mess, they were promoted two times and work somewhere else now. If anything, AI makes it much easier to suck and still get things done to an acceptable degree.

Re: AI Can Make You Suck Faster Too

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Bit of a humbling/jarring moment when I realized that people are doing real paid work using LLMs that they could not otherwise do. I mean, it's quite obvious I suppose. But up until now I just assumed it was only a (massive) catalyst for things people would already be able to do with enough time. But nope -- it seems people are right now employed in roles that they would not be able to fulfil the tasks within if AI w…

I mentioned this then other day, my university class had maybe 80% of people who could not code. No joke. And a lot have gone onto to code professionally.

AI is a godsend to this cohort of code monkies.

Edit: we graduated in 2006.

Re: AI Can Make You Suck Faster Too

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I now started to us AI to help review my juniors PRs, because I couldn't keep up with the amount of code they ship. It started poorly, but now I have my method: I first read the code and flag the lines I'm not sure about, then ask any frontier model (I like Claude here for analysis, even if I don't use it for the rest) to explain the PR and to put effort on the parts I flagged (basically explain in detail the code, n…

>I tell them to try to find what part of the code doesn't work before generating the fix this makes me kinda sad. they don't do this on their own? are they not even a little curious

even before AI very few developers cared about the actual craft. I'd say only about 3%. For a lot of people it's just a job, no matter if it's a corperate dev or a startup dev.

Re: AI Can Make You Suck Faster Too

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- its just a next token predictor with a high probability bro https://blog.florianherrengt.com/how-llms-work.html

- when are all the "I am running agents 24x7 a day on max plan" people on HN gonna learn this?

- best case scenario bro: LLMs get infinitely better and nobody needs to code anymore

"software requirement prompting is the new skill" I can write those pretty well bro

- worst case scenario: AI market crash, cognitive debt spikes across every major organization filled with vibe coding juniors that have never spent a single day in their life debugging a production setup without AI.

- Now the whole world is filled with 90% programmers that cannot add 2 numbers in c++ without using GPT

- Guess what bro? I am now one of the most valuable programmers there is :)

Re: AI Can Make You Suck Faster Too

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post #70

> “after four years of open source LLMs, we should have three AirBnBs, two Stripes, and three Dropboxes thanks to the power of AI.” Airbnb, Stripe and Dropbox were created in a different time when the market was much less competitive. Saturation of software development velocity doesn’t increase large scale product opportunities in the market. It can also mean that opportunities get filled even more quickly by niche p…

It’s laughable to compare fundraising today to 15 years ago.

You won’t get capital let alone VC if you’re not AI.

It’s infected everything much like crypto did just 3-4 years ago.

Re: AI Can Make You Suck Faster Too

#98
post #48

I now started to us AI to help review my juniors PRs, because I couldn't keep up with the amount of code they ship. It started poorly, but now I have my method: I first read the code and flag the lines I'm not sure about, then ask any frontier model (I like Claude here for analysis, even if I don't use it for the rest) to explain the PR and to put effort on the parts I flagged (basically explain in detail the code, n…

"because the underlying lib wasn't coded like the original AI pretended it was"

So, the models ARE dumb. They just are very good at finding patterns in their training data. I mean, when they code minecraft clones, it is not because they can cook up how to write minecraft clones, rather, their training data includes a lot of minecraft-like games code, and they just reuse that.

Re: AI Can Make You Suck Faster Too

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post #52

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Even as someone using AI on the regular I'm starting to hate the "You didn't actually use this exact most expensive model so your point is invalid" argument. This is fair to say if someones last experience with AI was copy-pasting code into GPT3 chat windows years ago, but Deepseek is a more than capabale model and enough for someone to get an informed opinion about the technology. If people have actual counter argum…

In this case, the argument is valid though. Only recently have some of the models become powerful enough (for some) to actually be useful in day to day programming, without too much hand-holding. For most, this change occurred with the introduction of Claude Opus, and OpenAI and Google have caught up. Unfortunately, none of the "open" models is at this level yet. The field is moving fast, and asking for scientific ar…

It’s always static just FYI.

Re: AI Can Make You Suck Faster Too

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I think it depends on what area of the world you work. We recenty had one of our plant managers build a web portal to keep track of some of our operational tech, with features you wouldn't find in standard products. I've been turning it into a container app that can actually deploy safely into our cloud infrastrcture. It's quite frankly better quality than what most external software companies have provided us with i…

By coincidence, we've been building software for five years that other plant managers are now considering using to keep track of some operational metrics. And I don't think we should put LLMs into our development cycle, simply because the data our software is built for can have critical meaning in some situations. The insecurity in a vibe-coded web portal isn't that someone hacks it with XSS, it's that after the next…

I don't think you should keep AI away from software development for security reasons. We're in the European economic area and are completely NIS2 compliant and we use LLM's to aid in our software development for high risk systems. None of that is vibe coded though, so it's not like I disagree with you either.

As you point out this portal isn't that, but what protects us is the processes around compliance. This can't grow from X to Y because not even the CEO has the authority to overwrite our compliance gates. The EU is a tremendous help in this area since personal liability changed things completely.

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