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AI Can Make You Suck Faster Too

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Re: AI Can Make You Suck Faster Too

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Post by cindyllm »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #18
mikenew wrote: post #9

> The chatbot recommended some of the dumbest shit you could possibly do The "I tried it and it sucked" is borderline conspiratorial at this point. There are enough talented, thoughtful developers saying there's something real here, and it is worth believing them and investing some time to understand it, even if you come out the other side and decide you don't want to use LLMs. Use a very good model. Set up a good ha…

> Don't write it off until you've genuinely seen the upsides. This is ridiculous. Basically you're saying "if you try it and find it sucks, you're wrong, keep at it until you change your mind". That isn't a tool at that point, it's a religion.

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Re: AI Can Make You Suck Faster Too

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Post by uxhacker »

blfr wrote: post #4

There are some good points, and I ask the question of where is the ground breaking stuff myself, but severely weakened by * stretching the timeline: the actual real programming ability appeared in LLMs in the last 6-8 months, not 3-4 years, * using the weakest possible tool: and I bought $10 worth of DeepSeek credits that is a far cry from Claude with Fable. Also, I know nothing about marathons but for most uses putt…

Is the issue that nobody has come up with the idea for the great ground breaking ideas?

Or B that the ideas are there but are not get released as the code is ai slop?

Re: AI Can Make You Suck Faster Too

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Post by dvt »

coatmatter wrote: post #16

If one truly believes it's not in a bubble, then borrow and leverage an unlimited amount and bet the house & your family on creating a business with infinite growth and value. Don't know how to do your own prompts? Borrow and then hire others to do it for you. If those who you hire don't know, they can hire others too.* [* This is not financial advice. Please don't actually do this.]

You could make the converse argument, too: why don't you borrow and leverage and bet and short these AI companies, if you so vehemently think it's a bubble?

The bottom line is that markets are complicated, useful technologies are often accompanied by bubbles, investors are not always rational, and people generally try to make the best decision with the information they have available. The answer is likely somewhere in the middle, but that's a lot more boring and a lot less inflammatory.

Re: AI Can Make You Suck Faster Too

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Post by imafish »

His AI experience is $10 of DeepSeek - but I think he is right anyway in the main points.

You can most definitely ship crap much faster than you used to. It's obvious to anyone when you're shipping crap. And it seems everywhere I look people are shipping crap. Both software and writing.

The hardest part of shipping quality software is not and has never been "writing the code". The hard parts are product taste, architecture and ensuring your product actually solves the problems it should in an efficient and secure manner.

If you don't have an intuition of those, you will likely still be shipping crap. Just faster.

Re: AI Can Make You Suck Faster Too

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Post by MattPalmer1086 »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #18
mikenew wrote: post #9

> The chatbot recommended some of the dumbest shit you could possibly do The "I tried it and it sucked" is borderline conspiratorial at this point. There are enough talented, thoughtful developers saying there's something real here, and it is worth believing them and investing some time to understand it, even if you come out the other side and decide you don't want to use LLMs. Use a very good model. Set up a good ha…

> Don't write it off until you've genuinely seen the upsides. This is ridiculous. Basically you're saying "if you try it and find it sucks, you're wrong, keep at it until you change your mind". That isn't a tool at that point, it's a religion.

No, it just means you have to learn to use the tool well.

Re: AI Can Make You Suck Faster Too

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Post by joha4270 »

coatmatter wrote: post #16

If one truly believes it's not in a bubble, then borrow and leverage an unlimited amount and bet the house & your family on creating a business with infinite growth and value. Don't know how to do your own prompts? Borrow and then hire others to do it for you. If those who you hire don't know, they can hire others too.* [* This is not financial advice. Please don't actually do this.]

While I do believe its a bubble, that seems like a silly viewpoint that presumes infinite risk tolerance.

Re: AI Can Make You Suck Faster Too

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Post by cheeze »

dr_dshiv wrote: post #5

“I wanted to see if I can get in on this 10x magic. I decided to put my money where my mouth was and I bought $10 worth of DeepSeek credits to use with a project I was working on.“ Wow. I guess that’s the punchline!

I got here and... I agreed with everything up to this point.

The author makes a good point. If you don't know what you're doing, AI accelerates that. No question.

But they put a whopping... ten bucks into using DeepSeek and weren't impressed with the initial results.

I know they try to cover this with "you just aren't prompting correctly!" but if, in 2026, you aren't able to have an LLM generate decent quality code... IDK what to tell you. Good luck I guess?

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