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Re: Fastpotify

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Post by nickysielicki »

paweladamczuk wrote: post #60
nickysielicki wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tools for piracy are much better today than they were back in the Napster or grooveshark days. It’s actually kind of shocking to me that we haven’t had a popcorntime moment for music again. Nothing technical is preventing the creation of a perfect decentralized anonymous p2p FLAC streaming platform with plausible deniability.

How would the plausible deniability piece work? If you stream some bytes to someone else, you can't deny doing it. Unless you imagine this working over Tor, idk what the performance of Tor is these days but I never thought it could support such an application.

Music is relatively small. Tor is totally capable of hosting zlibrary without bandwidth restrictions getting in the way.

By plausible deniability I simply meant adopting a similar approach that Stremio has, to keep it on the good side of App Store approval processes. The app itself only allows for creative commons content by default, but with the right incantations it can host anything.

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by hillbillydilly »

nan60 wrote: post #6
wilted-iris wrote: post #2

Spotify is in the process of killing the librespot project that this and most third party Spotify players are built on. I think the golden age of music streaming is coming to an end. I’ve migrated to a self hosted library with streaming and radio for discovery. I hope we’ll see many projects in the space flourish. Many, like Navidrome and the whole OpenSubsonic ecosystem, seem to be doing quite well.

> radio for discovery Would you be willing to share a bit more about this setup? The only thing keeping my on streaming is the fact that its almost impossible to find new music otherwise. I know LastFM exists but it just doesn't click for me the way that streaming does. I like discovering music organically.

I don't know about you but spotify discovery feels like the least organic discovery possible. Its so homogeneous and predictable and corporate slop adjacent it makes me cringe just thinking about it.

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by rixed »

yedpodtrzitko wrote: post #37
rixed wrote: post #23

Another site tricking users willing to look at the code into starring the repo instead. How desperate do you need to be to resort to this?

I had to read the comment a few times. Do you mean "starring" instead of "starting"?

Yes sorry, fixed. Thanks!

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by righthand »

wilted-iris wrote: post #2

Spotify is in the process of killing the librespot project that this and most third party Spotify players are built on. I think the golden age of music streaming is coming to an end. I’ve migrated to a self hosted library with streaming and radio for discovery. I hope we’ll see many projects in the space flourish. Many, like Navidrome and the whole OpenSubsonic ecosystem, seem to be doing quite well.

Spoiler: Spotify has always been terrible. The golden age of music streaming was Zune pass where you could stream and download 10 songs/mo.

And arguably Pandora always had a better radio algorithm than Spotify.

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by tamimio »

Walf wrote: post #12

Fuck Spotify. Even if you don't care about the ethics of Daniel Ek's investments, the platform itself is crap. One of the lowest paying to artists, not paying at all unless they hit a threshold, and the catalogue is filling up with AI slop, which they push on users via 'radio' and 'mix' playlists, so they can pay even less royalties. No, thanks.

The best is to host your own, navidrome is great and easy to set up. But if you really wanna hate on one, it’s Apple Music, believe it or not, they will actually delete ALL your playlists that you made over the years if you stop paying subscription for few weeks or sometime for days, why? Because Apple says fuck you, you are renting and you are not entitled for anything, which also explains why they are now trying to have hardware as a service with their new renting hardware program.. at least spotify doesn’t do that and keep your playlist to export later.

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by joshschreuder »

nickysielicki wrote: post #61
paweladamczuk wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How would the plausible deniability piece work? If you stream some bytes to someone else, you can't deny doing it. Unless you imagine this working over Tor, idk what the performance of Tor is these days but I never thought it could support such an application.

Music is relatively small. Tor is totally capable of hosting zlibrary without bandwidth restrictions getting in the way. By plausible deniability I simply meant adopting a similar approach that Stremio has, to keep it on the good side of App Store approval processes. The app itself only allows for creative commons content by default, but with the right incantations it can host anything.

Stremio and other apps like Fusion have gone up and been (reasonably quickly) taken down off the App Store though.

Not really "on the good side" when your main distribution method is "add this app to your account within the first 1-2 weeks of it being in the App Store or never again", or sideloading.

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by xxs »

p-e-w wrote: post #28
ralfhn wrote: post #3

It takes five minutes to make a website look less obviously AI-generated.

The website looks great to me, clean and simple, perfect for a project like this. “Not looking like it was made by AI” isn’t something I value for itself in a website, any more than “not looking like it was made with injection molding” is something I would value in a plastic item. Either it’s good or it isn’t, but it’s not good or bad because of how it was made.

> “not looking like it was made with injection molding”

Aside machining POM, what else is there. Injection molding tend to be great.

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by refactor_master »

hillbillydilly wrote: post #63
nan60 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> radio for discovery Would you be willing to share a bit more about this setup? The only thing keeping my on streaming is the fact that its almost impossible to find new music otherwise. I know LastFM exists but it just doesn't click for me the way that streaming does. I like discovering music organically.

I don't know about you but spotify discovery feels like the least organic discovery possible. Its so homogeneous and predictable and corporate slop adjacent it makes me cringe just thinking about it.

I've discovered so many great artists through Spotify, and been to many of their shows (which Spotify also helps surface with their "Live Events" feature). I regularly get artists with less than 100k listeners in my Discover Weekly, which I then look up, and find that they did a concert on KEXP, and the comments all proclaiming "I knew good music wasn't dead!".

So I can say for sure that I don't share the slop sentiment. Sure, there's some generic filler every now and then, but any non-cohesive mix, as opposed to a carefully curated album is going to have songs that naturally become "fillers".

Just now, I discovered that Spotify snuck in "The Juan Maclean - Running Back To You (2014)", which is a cover of "Brian Bennet - Solstice (1978)". Neither songs are completely unknown, but they're also not exactly Bruno Mars.

I don't know if this is pure luck or algorithmic rhythm analysis, but for me it's working.

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