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RavynOS: Pre-alpha open-source OS based on Darwin, FreeBSD, Apple open-source

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Re: RavynOS: Pre-alpha open-source OS based on Darwin, FreeBSD, Apple open-source

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Aristo already exists and looks great: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&query=aristo%20cxr&sor... >

The real link: https://www.cappuccino.dev/aristo/ Looks great, so sad that it's yet another web framework. Kinda smacks of GNOME, though.

Oh wow I remember trying cuppaccino about .... 15 years ago maybe? Fun times, though I never built anything serious.

Re: RavynOS: Pre-alpha open-source OS based on Darwin, FreeBSD, Apple open-source

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Aristo already exists and looks great: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&query=aristo%20cxr&sor... >

The real link: https://www.cappuccino.dev/aristo/ Looks great, so sad that it's yet another web framework. Kinda smacks of GNOME, though.

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Re: RavynOS: Pre-alpha open-source OS based on Darwin, FreeBSD, Apple open-source

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Perhaps the biggest reason is that the existing FOSS OS world has little to offer for people who like a Mac-style desktop. It's possible to customize DEs to have a very shallow visual resemblance but the details are all wrong, with Windows, legacy Linux desktops, and even mobile operating systems (in e.g. the case of GNOME) exerting the greater bulk of design influence. The question might then, "why not make this a D…

I’m super confused as to what is missing in the FOSS world, how does it “have little to offer?” It really sounds like you just like the macOS style and want a clone of it, and that’s certainly fine as a desire or a request, but if you like macOS, macOS is already available. For what logical reason should a project be copying macOS? I would absolutely agree that a logical reason is to run macOS apps on other platforms…

> You’ve established that a Linux desktop environment in macOS style alone is not sufficient, and that makes me wonder what details of the underpinnings is Linux getting wrong compared to Mac? Is launchd superior to systemd?

Pretty much anything is better than systemd.

CoreAudio is far superior to anything Linux has.

WindowServer is better than Wayland.

Re: RavynOS: Pre-alpha open-source OS based on Darwin, FreeBSD, Apple open-source

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I think any desktop operating systems has to present itself with at least a single screenshot. Why not one in the entire page?

And now that I have walked over the whole website: Why not a single screenshot anywhere?

The screenshots were deleted a month ago.

https://github.com/ravynsoft/website/commit/1a576c1d8f2fa964...

Re: RavynOS: Pre-alpha open-source OS based on Darwin, FreeBSD, Apple open-source

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And now that I have walked over the whole website: Why not a single screenshot anywhere?

The screenshots were deleted a month ago. https://github.com/ravynsoft/website/commit/1a576c1d8f2fa964...

this is when still using FreeBSD/NextBSD kernel, that DE using ObjC and basic framebuffer no x11 / wayland. The current one using Darwin kernel but still CLI only and no graphics subsystem supported yet.

Re: RavynOS: Pre-alpha open-source OS based on Darwin, FreeBSD, Apple open-source

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And now that I have walked over the whole website: Why not a single screenshot anywhere?

The screenshots were deleted a month ago. https://github.com/ravynsoft/website/commit/1a576c1d8f2fa964...

Also if you wanna GUI puredarwin exist , based on X11 no macOS GUI subsystem:

- https://sourceforge.net/projects/puredarwin/files/2012/ older

- https://github.com/PureDarwin/PureDarwin/releases/tag/17.4 older just before new Nix

- https://www.puredarwin.org/#get-it newest using X11 and Nix packager

Re: RavynOS: Pre-alpha open-source OS based on Darwin, FreeBSD, Apple open-source

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from the faq: > Is this... legally sketchy? No. Consider projects like ReactOS, a from-scratch effort to create an OS compatible with Microsoft Windows, GNUstep, which provides an open implementation of Cocoa APIs and other things, or Darling, a compatibility layer for running Darwin (macOS) binaries on Linux. ravynOS is similar and stands on the shoulders of many such projects. as far as i understand it, most compan…

It's safe, worked from previously apple owned darwin oss, opendarwin and mklinux, also apple provided mostly of base OS under OSS license/APSL.

Re: RavynOS: Pre-alpha open-source OS based on Darwin, FreeBSD, Apple open-source

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Microsoft definitely know about ReactOS.

not saying $TECHCO doesn’t know about X project. i’m just saying that if the average person doesn’t know about it, it’s unlikely to get shut down, as it poses no threat.

Maybe. But Microsoft get the bulk of their licensing from enterprise offerings. And Windows comes preinstalled on consumer machines anyway. So I don’t think there’s any risk of ReactOS becoming a problem for MS.

And with Apple, they’ve always approached the market as a hardware company first and foremost. Which is why macOS has always been free vs Windows which, until recently, was not.

Platforms like Linux was always a greater threat to both companies because Linux takes potential customers away from Microsoft and Apples ecosystems in ways that FOSS reimplementations do not.

But that all said, companies of that scale are inherently greedy and paranoid. So I wouldn’t be surprised to them burying those projects under a mountain of frivolous legal demands if those projects were to become as widely known as Linux.

Re: RavynOS: Pre-alpha open-source OS based on Darwin, FreeBSD, Apple open-source

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Maybe someone more familiar with operating systems kernels can answer this: Is Darwin really all the exiting? It is different from both the BSD kernels and Linux, but less so than Windows. Other than the ability to run macOS applications (assuming you can clone the libraries and APIs from macOS) is there some benefit of Darwin that I'm not seeing?

Most kernels are kind of the same really. Some have slightly fancier inter-process communication. Leading to my all-time favorite YouTube video, an explainer on Android IPC cut like a spy thriller. I'm not even joking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb4UoqXPEtI

This is great stuff, thank you for sharing!
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