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Google Has Removed MV2 Extensions from the Chrome Web Store, Including UBO

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Re: Google Has Removed MV2 Extensions from the Chrome Web Store, Including UBO

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Post by krrrh »

tomalbrc wrote: post #156
embedding-shape wrote: post #40

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You mean OS as in "operating system", not "open source", which made me question how you'd suggest Safari and Edge before I realized what was going on. I don't know why using the default browser a OS comes with or not would be better? Who cares? All that matters for me is what features it has and that performance isn't horrible, and if I cannot have vertical tree-style tabs in it and hide the tab-bar, then I personall…

> I don't know why using the default browser a OS comes with or not would be better? Are being ignorant on purpose now? Apple's Safari has integration with Apple's Password app which firefox does not. Edge automatically connects with your Microsoft account. Both browsers sync tabs, bookmarks and so on across your Microsoft/Apple account connected devices. For a lot of 'average' users this is already extremely conveni…

I recently switched from Safari to Zen and the Firefox extension for Apple passwords works well. You have to enter a pushed 6 digit code when you first start the browser, but it’s relatively painless.

Re: Google Has Removed MV2 Extensions from the Chrome Web Store, Including UBO

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Post by TiredOfLife »

beloch wrote: post #174

Ad blocking has become a safety issue. My parents are at an age where they fall for things. If a malicious ad pops up and offers to install McAfee, some other form of crapware, or outright scamware, they'll click that ad and install the thing. Then I'll get called over when the computer starts acting screwy. If Google, MS, etc. had ever gotten together and developed a way to filter malicious ads out of their own ad s…

uBlock Origin lite is an mv3 extension and blocks ads.

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Post by TiredOfLife »

vamsipk wrote: post #366
judge2020 wrote: post #235

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Yeah I don’t seem to feel any performance or functionality degradation myself. What ad blocking related feature has been made impossible with MV3?

Maybe or maybe not. But Youtube ads are now freely flowing through with MV3. That was the entire ruse.

I have used uBlock Origin Lite or a couple years. Youtube is supposed to have ads?

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Post by unethical_ban »

TFNA wrote: post #188
unethical_ban wrote: post #76

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I use firefox on all devices, but there are two notches against it in my book: Firefox on Android lags during scrolling on multiple sites that do not lag on Chrome. The only extension I have is UBO, and I don't know if that is the cause of it or not - I haven't tested thoroughly. One way or another there is a performance issue there by default. Second, GrapheneOS has this to say about Firefox on mobile: >Worst of all…

I have never had any scrolling lag issues on Firefox (in the form of Fennec from F-Droid) on GrapheneOS.

I've had the issue on multiple phones. Firefox nightly seemed to fix it for a while but it suffers from it too after a while. I need to test if it's UBO or the sister comment that says closing tabs and restarting helps. It's only on certain sites I really notice it, maybe JS or video heavy sites. NYTimes in particular.

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Post by robhlt »

tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #354
cwnyth wrote: post #198

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The better thing would be to hold Google directly accountable for every malicious ad they allow through their network. If they cannot do that, they should not be in business selling ads then. Yes, that means amending the law (in the US). But the law as it is written facilitates crime.

Not just the networks (although preferably also the networks) but also the publishers. If a newspaper took money to advertise blatant, obvious scams, I assume a judge would consider them at least partially responsible for restitution, if not an accessory to the crime. Looking away really hard (and delegating the task of looking away really hard) shouldn't get you out of this. Hold the publisher responsible, they can…

This kind of thing has come up before with "murder for hire" advertisements [1]. The publishers were only found liable when the advertisement was very explicit. Seems like the bar is quite high and courts are currently unwilling to impose "undue burden" on publishers.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldier_of_Fortune_(magazine)#...

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Post by duskdozer »

WarmWash wrote: post #365
pocksuppet wrote: post #231

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Evidently whenever money and safety are opposed, money wins every time. Ad blocking is existential for Google. If everyone blocks ads, Google stops existing. They will do everything they can to prevent it, without going so far they stop existing for regulatory reasons either.

It's not just Google, the Internet stops existing. I know people have rosy eyes for a BBS/IRC comeback, but that will never happen. By and large, people don't care about having to look at tide and Toyota ads to watch YouTube.

No it wouldn't.

Your bank, school, doctor, and government would all still have websites. Companies would still sell things online. Video calls and chat systems would be there. All the websites run by donation or self-funding would be unchanged. Without ads, the worst parts of the internet might stop existing though.

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Post by fhn »

sirfz wrote: post #35
gardnr wrote: post #7

I remember in 2010 when Chrome made the web so much better for everyone. All the early adopters were singing its praise and encouraging friends and family to use it. Now, I encourage people to use anything but Chrome. Firefox is really great these days.

Firefox was amazing even when Chrome was released

It was certainly better than IE but Chrome definitely surpassed Firefox and is still better except for blocking addons

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Post by cwnyth »

sroussey wrote: post #315
cute_boi wrote: post #307

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Idk if apple can validate each and every apps before publishing to appstore, why can't google and facebook validate each and every ads?

But they don’t. Google and others do vet ads, but when they don’t host them, the ads can change based on who is looking (clean ads for Google! Not for you!). Google didn’t have this issue until they bought DoubleClick (text ads and they hosted). And they had pretty good privacy as they didn’t want to share shit. After DC it all went to hell.

> But they don’t. Google and others do vet ads, but when they don’t host them, the ads can change based on who is looking (clean ads for Google! Not for you!).

That sounds like a problem that Google should have already solved. Maybe that's why "Don't Be Evil" got the boot.

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Post by cwnyth »

dylan604 wrote: post #262
bborud wrote: post #253

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How would one hold Google accountable? By fining them $1bn? $10bn? $100bn? To them it is just the cost of doing business. We're beyond holding huge companies accountable. The only way they could be held accountable is if there was personal risk involved for the CEOs. There isn't.

At this point, breaking them up into smaller companies. Then start fining the individual companies so the balance sheets feel the fine more. Increase the fines exponentially for each violation.

The other option is jailing those who direct companies to break laws. It works for criminal organizations, why doesn't it work for companies?

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Post by Walf »

rickette wrote: post #21

I'm fairly happy with uBlock Origin Lite. Sure the original was better but this one does the job as well. uBlock Origin Lite is a MV3 extension, by the same author.

The main reason uBlock on Firefox works better is because of CNAME de-cloaking. All the tracking shit that appears to load as first-party, but isn't, can be correctly detected and blocked on Firefox. On Chrome it cannot, and with Google, Facebook, et al. encouraging site owners to move to these fake first-party conversion tracking solutions, your exposure to profiling has increased dramatically. You may see fewer ads but it does not do the same job.
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