IMHO, for Android and IOS, Flutter is solid enough to implement apps which are near native ones in terms of performance and "look & feel"
Native Apps Why?
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#12Native app vs what? A web app?
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#13There's nothing like having a locally installed program that has no internet dependencies for reliability. There's a reason machine shops still have that one PC running MS-DOS 5.0 in an emulator. The tool built in Tk!Solver version 1 in 1982 can't be easily replaced, and it's required to compute bevel gear generator setups.
Changing anything in the setup might cause gears to come out wrong, and cost thousands of dollars in scrap, and the loss of a customer.
When you have a locally installed program, offline, you're pretty much immune to most of the troubles of the technical world.
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#14Native apps are not needed unless you want want performance and need to extract all the juice your hardware offers. Only AAA video games come to mind.
Come on, you really only see AAA video games requiring native apps?
Surely that was a rushed reply(?). How about regular system utilities? Video/audio editors? IDE's? Debuggers? Image/3D editors? Compressor/decompressors? Terminal emulators? And so much more stuff.
Sure, many of these already have "web" versions but there's still a lot of apps that benefit greatly from being native and not go through another browser/webview/node instance.
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#16Today I was using Jira and had to wait for the text in what should be a static dropdown menu to populate. It sat there with a bunch of placeholder boxes for a good 30 seconds. This has never happened to me with a native app.
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#17I think the divide is pretty clear.
If the app needs connectivity for data, and is just text/images/video, then yes, it should be a web app. e.g. news sites, social media, forums, etc. (It's a site, not an app).
If an app needs be able to work offline, on local files and data, then it should be native. e.g. office apps, image/video editors, maps, CAD, etc.
There's a grey area in between, but usually it's pretty obvious.
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#18On macOS and iOS, I prefer native apps because Apple gives these apps a bunch of extras in terms of keyboard shortcuts and functionality. Non-native apps that are web views don't get this functionality unless the developer properly hooks it or mimics it. They rarely get this right. That said, I'm not sure of the current state of Flutter and RN. They resolve to OS native controls, so theoretically they should support…
So it's not that you "prefer" native, it is that Apple are intentionally limiting PWAs in their capabilities?
I have built an application that I originally intended to be a PWA, but I had to make it a native application because how Apple are limiting many things for me.
It sucks because I now have to pay the apple tax and get "accepted" by Apple. Ironic, considering the original release of the iPhone, where web apps where the promise to us.
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#19Native apps are not needed unless you want want performance and need to extract all the juice your hardware offers. Only AAA video games come to mind.
Come on, you really only see AAA video games requiring native apps? Surely that was a rushed reply(?). How about regular system utilities? Video/audio editors? IDE's? Debuggers? Image/3D editors? Compressor/decompressors? Terminal emulators? And so much more stuff. Sure, many of these already have "web" versions but there's still a lot of apps that benefit greatly from being native and not go through another browser/…
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> Video/audio editors? IDE's? Debuggers? Image/3D editors? Compressor/decompressors? Terminal emulators? And so much more stuff.
Video I can understand, and anything that needs a real local terminal. On the other hand, audio, IDEs and debuggers, image editors, 3D editors, codecs, and remote terminals, nah.
My first use of most of those things was on a Performa 5200 whose CPU registers had lower bandwidth (though obviously better latency) than my phone's cellular 4G modem.
Web stuff may feels un-performant, but a lot of this is due to a mix of a thousand or so analytics libraries all competing with each other to spy on everything you do, plus some kind of reactive nonsense that isn't half as good as it wants the developers to think it is, plus zero incentive from the companies to the coders to make things fast.
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