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Re: Student teacher arrested for private Snapchat message

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yes, and whichever god you believe in might be listening in and come down to personally smite you! but there is significantly different chances of those events happening. there is a 100% chance snapchat reads all of your messages. a random student teacher being infected by pegasus-like spyware is ~= 0% chance. a flock camera in my living room is 0% chance.

Why do you think a random person being affected by Pegasus-like spyware is that low? The EU is pushing Chat Control pretty hard, and the US is outfitting ICE with an ever expanding arsenal of surveillance tools. There's a lot of stuff that's already out there, and of course the public gets to know about it only when there's some kind of leak. At any moment you or someone you're close to may have a device that's liste…

>Why do you think a random person being affected by Pegasus-like spyware is that low?

because no one is risking their exploit chain, wasting their multi-million dollar tools, on the chance that the random person they infected makes a dark joke that they can report to the fbi. when it comes to sophisticated and targeted surveillance, normal people vastly overestimate their own importance. you only get so many uses of a tool like pegasus before it expires, so you dont waste those uses on frivolous "maybe"s.

just avoid snapchat, instagram, facebook, and the other platforms that promise you that they read 100% of your conversations, and you're fine. there's enough people making charlie kirk jokes (or doing actually illegal stuff) on those platforms that ICE will be kept busy.

if you're too scared to make a joke (or vent, whatever) in your own living room, face to face with a friend, because you are worried about your friend's phone being infected by nation-state-level spyware, i sincerely urge you to take a step back and do a reassessment of the risks in your life.

Re: Student teacher arrested for private Snapchat message

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A student in an Education program doing their teaching experience at a school, before they graduate with a degree in Education.

> before they graduate with a degree in Education. Before they are sacked and lose their career for venting to friends.

Yeah, unfortunately they are not in the union.

Re: Student teacher arrested for private Snapchat message

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100% >Your Snapchat DMs feel like a locked apartment — but the building management reportedly kept a spare key.

It's like their system prompts have a line that says, "Use analogies everywhere. Humans love analogies."

“Humans are very stupid so make sure to use childish analogical writing”

Re: Student teacher arrested for private Snapchat message

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On one side, I agree with most comments here - end to end encryption is the only way to go, don't use snapchat, etc, etc.

On the other side, she did write about committing a school shooting. Its hard to infer comedy from a text chat you have no context on. If you pretend this info did not come from corporate snooping then I have nothing against the FBI investigating this.

Re: Student teacher arrested for private Snapchat message

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On one side, I agree with most comments here - end to end encryption is the only way to go, don't use snapchat, etc, etc. On the other side, she did write about committing a school shooting. Its hard to infer comedy from a text chat you have no context on. If you pretend this info did not come from corporate snooping then I have nothing against the FBI investigating this.

People joke about a fire drills at work or their neighbour in the apartment building burning the toast and setting off the alarm. We don't equate that to people laughing about dozens of people burning to death (even if that's a possible reality of a fire) because to most of us it's not conceptualized like that.

This is a teacher in the US who would have had to sit through live shooting drills and never believed a live shooting would happen at her school (How much would you need to be paid to work somewhere where you seriously believed you had a 1 in 100 chance of being shot in the next 5 years, it wouldn't be a teachers salary for most of us).

Re: Student teacher arrested for private Snapchat message

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Why would a human review it? That only drives up costs for the company. Easier to use algorithms for everything and maybe pay the occasional fine when something goes seriously wrong and legal proceedings result.

I mean the FBI / cops.

Possible they also asked AI to do a "risk assessment" and just went with it.

Re: Student teacher arrested for private Snapchat message

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For those with more knowledge, what’s the best direct and group messaging platform for security nowadays? Is it signal? I don’t use Snapchat but have been meaning to increase personal and family security (security from government in TFA’s case, which is a sad thing to say)

This may be unpopular? But Signal > iMessage > WhatsApp, is my personal ranking. Usually it’s possible to get almost anyone on one of those, and while WhatsApp is far from perfect, it’s better than SMS or another totally unencrypted service.

As a certified Meta hater, I would love a better third option, if anyone knows of one, but WhatsApp has such strong network effects, and it seems like a decent way to moderately* improve the security posture of non-tech-savvy family.

*The thing where they store the encryption key with the backup is terrible, and can make the improvement essentially negligible in cases of govt subpoena or similar, but even so, using WhatsApp would still prevent stuff like this SnapChat story

Re: Student teacher arrested for private Snapchat message

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post #75

On one side, I agree with most comments here - end to end encryption is the only way to go, don't use snapchat, etc, etc. On the other side, she did write about committing a school shooting. Its hard to infer comedy from a text chat you have no context on. If you pretend this info did not come from corporate snooping then I have nothing against the FBI investigating this.

I find it fascinating that some people have never themselves or known anyone else who, upon some person causing them serious loss of emotional well-being/time/work/money, joked about harming them in some way while venting to a friend or relative without any intention of doing so.

When someone has seriously harmed you in some fashion, it's pretty normal to fantasize about harming them back in some way (without intent to actually do so) as a coping mechanism.

Re: Student teacher arrested for private Snapchat message

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That's not a joke. You simply don't joke about "shooting students" with gun emoji. Not in this climate. I support any system that takes threats seriously, even "joking threats" to strangers in personal chats. Jokes have a tendency to escalate.

Basically my experience in 2026 on Facebook and other major social media: there are no jokes. You don't do satire on your personal account; you don't deadpan jokes about violence, or gender, or national security; you simply do not kid around, even in private. A few of my close friends have called out my "joking nature" and my tendency not to take anything seriously. Sometimes they urged me to have a modicum of compassion for victims of violence or disasters. It is difficult for me and others, but don't joke. Don't celebrate violence. Don't wish harm on others. It will be taken seriously.

If any "student teacher" had that ideation of "shooting students" in his or her care, I would hope that they would be taken out of the system, sooner rather than later. No educator in her right mind fantasizes, or jokes, or muses about shooting anyone, let alone their precious students.

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