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Google Has Removed MV2 Extensions from the Chrome Web Store, Including UBO

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Re: Google Has Removed MV2 Extensions from the Chrome Web Store, Including UBO

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I know Firefox's share of browser share has dwindled to almost nothing. I know sooner or later, well within my lifetime, it will be gone. But I will keep using it until they pry it from my hands. And if they do, I'll use forks until those break down too. I can't stand Google, or what Chrome has become. No single company should have such unilateral control over the internet and its information.

I use firefox on all devices, but there are two notches against it in my book: Firefox on Android lags during scrolling on multiple sites that do not lag on Chrome. The only extension I have is UBO, and I don't know if that is the cause of it or not - I haven't tested thoroughly. One way or another there is a performance issue there by default. Second, GrapheneOS has this to say about Firefox on mobile: >Worst of all…

Vanadium is a good browser but I wish it had Firefox's Private Mode toggle, for permanent private mode *

It's fiddly to even manually wipe history in Vanadium as it defaults to the '15 mins' option, and then it tries to suggest a subset of sites it thinks you want to retain data for **

* (Yes I know about the suboptimal workaround of the intent shortcut)

** (Yes I know this is upstream behaviour.)

Re: Google Has Removed MV2 Extensions from the Chrome Web Store, Including UBO

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post #22

Serious question: why do people use non-OS browsers? Most devs I know are on Mac. Why not just use Safari? Works in most cases, helps you catch issues earlier on, looks beautiful and is super customizable, still supports UBlock, has vertical tabs, syncs profiles to your focus, is way more memory efficient, etc. I've daily driven Safari for ~3y after Arc got sunset and the only site that gives me issues is Hulu (but n…

> Serious question: why do people use non-OS browsers?

Because Edge sucks, and FF is better than Safari.

Re: Google Has Removed MV2 Extensions from the Chrome Web Store, Including UBO

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Google's Evil knows no more boundaries.

Hopefully more and more people wake up as to what this adMonster has become.

If we want a real open world wide in the future, we need to do something about Google. UBO is not the only one killed by Google here. They will continue on their wicked path. (And, while it may be great that Ladybird exists, I have some doubts that this will really be a contender. We should not become lazy and think that Google will just comply with the demands of The People here - its business is based on controlling influx of adMoney via its Evil Empire, and it secures this by de-facto controlling the browser stack. Just look how many people in % use the chrome-codebase now. That IS effectively a monopoly powered by greed.)

Re: Google Has Removed MV2 Extensions from the Chrome Web Store, Including UBO

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post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Alphabet needs to be broken up. Chrome, Search, Android, Youtube need to be separate companies. It's not the only company that needs this treatment.

I'm quite torn on this. The United States needs a strong economy to counter China and keep Europe safe. In the short term, this might be nice, but in the medium term these moves might cause significant disruption to what makes the United States the highest gdp in the world. I'm unsure what the polymarket on this post is will be flagged. It's kind of surprising for HN to be so educated but not know (academic) internat…

Drumming up incoherent fears about China is the new favorite oligarch talking point, yes.

Re: Google Has Removed MV2 Extensions from the Chrome Web Store, Including UBO

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post #7

I remember in 2010 when Chrome made the web so much better for everyone. All the early adopters were singing its praise and encouraging friends and family to use it. Now, I encourage people to use anything but Chrome. Firefox is really great these days.

Funny enough I never left Firefox. It’s always been great.

Were you a Mac/Windows or Linux user? Personally I was an early adopter of Firefox and it worked great on Windows, but on Mac for a long stretch of time it was significantly slower than other Mac first browsers. Firefox also has this weird non-standard (for Mac) scrolling for the longest time, and the UI was dated.

Most of these things were not true on the Windows side. At least not to the same degree.

Re: Google Has Removed MV2 Extensions from the Chrome Web Store, Including UBO

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post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Alphabet needs to be broken up. Chrome, Search, Android, Youtube need to be separate companies. It's not the only company that needs this treatment.

I'm quite torn on this. The United States needs a strong economy to counter China and keep Europe safe. In the short term, this might be nice, but in the medium term these moves might cause significant disruption to what makes the United States the highest gdp in the world. I'm unsure what the polymarket on this post is will be flagged. It's kind of surprising for HN to be so educated but not know (academic) internat…

One could argue that it’s all the centralization and monopolistic behavior which hinders tech development in the usa. So a breakup might have short term stutters but long term gains.

Re: Google Has Removed MV2 Extensions from the Chrome Web Store, Including UBO

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post #7

I remember in 2010 when Chrome made the web so much better for everyone. All the early adopters were singing its praise and encouraging friends and family to use it. Now, I encourage people to use anything but Chrome. Firefox is really great these days.

Is 2010 when people started to like it? I remember, in 2008, being in a computer science course at university when Chrome launched. It was not liked at that time, at least within the computer users I knew. I remember it being mostly described as "that awful browser that Google made".

Re: Google Has Removed MV2 Extensions from the Chrome Web Store, Including UBO

#138

I know Firefox's share of browser share has dwindled to almost nothing. I know sooner or later, well within my lifetime, it will be gone. But I will keep using it until they pry it from my hands. And if they do, I'll use forks until those break down too. I can't stand Google, or what Chrome has become. No single company should have such unilateral control over the internet and its information.

I also was a Firefox user, but Mozilla killed Firefox many years ago. I noticed this when a mozilla dev said I must use systemd+pulseaudio in order to watch videos (well, hear audio) on youtube. Chrome worked fine. At that moment in time I knew mozilla no longer cared about the users. (I use thorium though, so actually I can still use ublock origin fine. But I am sad that I ended up with the evil Google empire. There is no real competition against it anymore, sadly enough.)

> No single company should have such unilateral control over the internet and its information.

Indeed. Hopefully more and more people realise this. Google has underestimated The People here.

Re: Google Has Removed MV2 Extensions from the Chrome Web Store, Including UBO

#139
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Alphabet needs to be broken up. Chrome, Search, Android, Youtube need to be separate companies. It's not the only company that needs this treatment.

> Alphabet needs to be broken up. Chrome, Search, Android need to be separate companies. As well as youtube, and the combination of google drive/docs.

YouTube really could hold up as its own company these days.

Re: Google Has Removed MV2 Extensions from the Chrome Web Store, Including UBO

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post #48

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Because for enterprise with Google login you literally can't login with anything else except official Chrome.

This might be IT department enforced, we're a FedRAMP High shop with Google IdP and roll Safari I've worked at some places where they restrict to Chrome because they have a corporate extension

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